Pole Barn build

[406flyfish]

Adding a Pole Barn to our property. Primarily for storage, but hoping to add a small work shop within and a small in-law suite (radiant floor heat) as well. Any advice or suggestions for the build would be appreciated.


I spoke with Morton Barnes and was quoted 240k for the structure below. Didn’t include any of the built in living space, electric or plumbing… He said to budget another 100-140k. I know they have a solid reputation, but that seems absurd.

MQS quoted me $73,540.00. Which only includes the materials.

Plan on doing the dirt work and slab prep myself. Ideally we’re trying to do this under 200k.

Free Standing Building installed on your level site
36' width x 56' length x 16' inside height
Roof System: 4' o/c trusses Pitch: 4/12Loading: 60-5-5 standard
Walls: 8' o/c TR laminated load-bearing columns with uplift protection
Siding: 29 gauge steel (Undecided Color)
Trim Color (Undecided Color)
Roofing Type: 29 Gauge Painted Steel (Undecided Color)
Overhangs: 12" Boxed on 2-eaves & 2-gables (Undecided Color) soffit and fascia
Insulation/Underlayment: 2317 sqft of Vapor Barrier on Roof
Insulation/Underlayment: 3500 sqft of House Wrap on Sides
2 - 12 X 12 steel-backed ins. (Undecided Color) Overhead Door(s)
1 - 3' X 6'8" Steel Flush Entry Door(s)
6 - 4X3 Slider Insulated Window(s)
1 - Crew Travel
Delivery to Zone 5

HOME PAGE - MQS

Metal Buildings in Washington, Montana, Wyoming, for all your building needs. Boasting post frame building in Spokane and Billings.

mqsbarn.com

https://mortonbuildings.com/projects/brents-hobby-building

 

[NRA4LIFE]

Build as big as you can afford. If you're going to have a suite, you'll need septic or sewer I would assume so count that in the price, plus water. Run 220 to it also.

 

[ThorM465]

Check out RR Buildings youtube channel. It's how pole barns should be built. You'll probably want to go back a few years, he's doing some fairly extravagant ones now that are probably more than you want. He has everything from sub 6 figure buildings to several hundred thousand dollar builds.

 

[longspeak74]

Take a look at Cleary as well.

 

[Hunt eat repeat]

Mr Postframe on YouTube is good too. He has a new video that shows the cost breakdown between DIY and having it built.

 

[Pony Soldier]

Try Lester Buildings.

 

[Jon Boy]

I will never understand the fascination of pole barns If you’re going to pour concrete. I don’t see any how it’s any cheaper, and certainly, not better, than a stick framed building. Some please explain it to me! Especially for the prices quoted above. They do get them up quick, I will say that.

 

[cnelk]

^^^
Well, you won’t get the 16’ sidewall height with stick built.

Typically pole barns have metal sheet siding installed vertical. That means the girts are horizontal. Unlike stick built when the walls are typically built vertical and siding is installed horizontally.

Getting it done quick means a lot to the owner.

 

[Whaledriver]

I built mine about 8 years ago. I found that kits had cheap materials in my opinion. With decent plans, any lumberyard will do a pull off and probably beat prices with better materials. The 29 gauge is beer can thickness. Pole barns can be tough to heat. My build had attic trusses to get some sq foot upstairs for not much more money. Run a couple independent 220s. Ran a gas line to it if ya can. I spray foamed under the roof and gables. Should have done the whole building. I live up in the hills so concrete can add up. A pole barn saved me quite a bit of money with just a slab pour. Also construction of it is simple. I GCd mine and saved a ton more money. Lots of places to save if you do the legwork. Lots of people like the "kit" easy button.

Good luck!!

 

[Legend]

I will never understand the fascination of pole barns If you’re going to pour concrete. I don’t see any how it’s any cheaper, and certainly, not better, than a stick framed building. Some please explain it to me! Especially for the prices quoted above. They do get them up quick, I will say that.

I couldn't agree more. Strange how people want an inferior building for living space.

Now if you want ot as a barn then it can make sense.

 

[Jon Boy]

I get it if you aren’t pouring concrete and just sinking posts into the ground. Anything outside of that seems like a waste. But, there are YouTube videos sensationalizing it.

 

[cnelk]

Nothing inferior about a pole barn house.
They have 6” walls and most people put hot water heat in the concrete. Very efficient.
Clear span so you can build any walls inside without being load bearing.

I built one for my parents 30 years ago and it’s still going strong

 

[weaver]

Id build that for a 100k less especially if site prep is all done.
The material quote itself is at least 25k over what I’d get into here in Ohio if it’s just for the shell
Pole barns can’t be beat $ per sf for unisulated storage.
Personally I would stick to foundation+ conventional framing for insulated living space.

 

[Balderdash]

Was hoping to build something similar in the near future. 240k is more than I was thinking, but also know that building costs are nuts these days.

 

[rookieforever33]

When I was getting quotes a few years ago Morton was over 20 percent more than Cleary or FBI. I told the salesman I dont mind paying for quality and please tell me why its worth it. Instead of telling me why it was worth it he sent me pictures and prices of prevoius builds that were much fancier than my plan and way more money. When I asked for clarification he told me Morton buildings were for people that wanted nice buildings. My Cleary building does me just fine now. F Morton.

 

[chaser_2332]

That price seems very high for basically a shell but i know geography has a lot to do with it. However i added a 50x120 with 5 garage doors for half of what u were quoted

 

[Jon Boy]

Nothing inferior about a pole barn house.
They have 6” walls and most people put hot water heat in the concrete. Very efficient.
Clear span so you can build any walls inside without being load bearing.

I built one for my parents 30 years ago and it’s still going strong

That’s just it, you have to frame twice. And incur twice the cost of material and labor. When you could have just stick framed from the beginning. If it’s going to be unfinished and no concrete from the beginning then it makes sense as far as cost savings.

 

[treillw]

Engineer who inspects failed structures here. Make sure that your poles are sufficiently embedded in the earth that they don't sway sideways under wind loads, etc. Also, protect your poles from rot the best you can - they are holding up your entire building (give me the willies a bit).

 

[JVS]

Where you located? Buddy of mine is one of the best pole barn builders in Missouri. He an his son are on the job the entire time. Only thing he subs out is overhead doors. PM if you want his contact info.

 

[TWoch]

Biggest benefit to pole barn home imo is that one crew has your building built and dried in less than 2 weeks. You aren’t paying block guys, framers, roofers, siding. And 29 ga steel sure handles the elements better than the plastic most people have on their homes. Labor is a killer. Find a local builder instead of the packages these companies hussle.