Pistols & red dots

[Steve300xcw]

I was impressed by how many fir needles my Deltapoint Pro managed to collect

Just put a EPS on my prodigy. So far, I am liking it quite a bit.

Also much prefer a green dot over a red dot. Bright sunny day, my eyes have a hard time seeing a red dot.

 

[Beendare]

Hat tip to @jpmulk for this in depth analysis by Sage Dynamics- Wow, mic drop on red dots

Reddots

 

[Wyomuleskinner]

I have a leupold delta point pro. It’s not cheap but very disappointing. I can’t see it very well and sometimes not at all in bright sunlight and often it’s impossible to see in the snow when the sun is shining.

 

[Wolfshead]

I have a Swampfox Sentinal on my Shield plus.
I would have no problem recommending that one!

 

[2ski]

I have used the RMR's, they are very good.
I own a couple Holosun. A 407 & 507. One on Ruger Mk4 Hunter it's about 5 years old the other I got this spring for a suppressed Ruger 22/45. One is green and one is red. I prefer the green. Have had no issues with them so far. I think the 407 was $250 or so.
The features I like are the auto off and shake awake. They also have a solar panel, that they run off, in daylight.
As for durability on a gun you might really need, I don't know. But mine work well and they are fast and fun on my rimfires.

What distance do you zero them at?

 

[Watrdawg]

I definitely like the closed emitter sights. I've switched to Holosun 507 sights for 2 of my pistols. I had Trijicon RMRs and didn't like them. Main reason is the dots. So when bringing a pistol to bear on a target finding the Dot in the sight was difficult for me. My Holosun as a large circle and then the center dot. So when I'm drawing the gun up from my holster and bringing it to bear on the target its easier and faster for me to find the dot and quickly center it on the target. For me, they are just much faster to use. If you are off just a bit on your draw its easier to find the larger outer circle and then put the center dot on target. I also have a stigmatism and the dots on RMR style sights have a bloom to them. The Holosuns sights are crisp and clear

 

[Axlrod]

What distance do you zero them at?

50 yards

 

[warrbuk]

I have either shot extensively on a T&E or owned an SRO, Acro P2, Holosun 509T, & a 507.

All are or were on duty or off duty pistols.

The SRO is bombproof, extra large lense, but open emitter.

The Acro was very nice but I slightly prefer the 509T

The 507 is basic & open emitter. Its compact size has earned it a spot on my off duty rig.

We sight our staff in at 25 yards.

The important thing to remember is that a RDO is a “target focus” sight with both eyes open. Its takes a lot of reps to become proficient in its use.

The same goes with the draw, our RDS transition is a 3 day process. It could be more..

Dry drills are great for reps if you don’t have unlimited ammo.


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[Yoder]

I have a Burris fast fire II on my old Glock 17. I bought an adapter plate that fits in the rear sight dovetail. It works pretty well, and I believe it has a forever warranty. Price was decent too. I shot open sights for so many years when I first tried the red dot, I didn't see any improvement. I need to shoot it a lot more. I can hardly find the dot when I draw the gun.

 

[BuckWild41]

I have either shot extensively on a T&E or owned an SRO, Acro P2, Holosun 509T, & a 507.

All are or were on duty or off duty pistols.

The SRO is bombproof, extra large lense, but open emitter.

The Acro was very nice but I slightly prefer the 509T

The 507 is basic & open emitter. Its compact size has earned it a spot on my off duty rig.

We sight our staff in at 25 yards.

The important thing to remember is that a RDO is a “target focus” sight with both eyes open. Its takes a lot of reps to become proficient in its use.

The same goes with the draw, our RDS transition is a 3 day process. It could be more..

Dry drills are great for reps if you don’t have unlimited ammo.


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I have a 509T2 on a SiG P320 AXG Legion and it's an absolute tac driver. Red dots are the way to go for sure

 

[jonesn3]

I did a training class recently after being “out of the game” for several years. I was surprised how many folks were running a reddot, the instructor basically said anybody not using a dot is behind the times! Lol

That said, I’m educating myself on the topic!

Not to hijack the thread, but what size dot (#MOA) is preferred?

 

[justinspicher]

I’m an Aimpoint fan for red dots, whether it’s on a rifle or a pistol. On my pistols I have the Acro P2 and enjoy them, I’ve not had any issues with them. I haven’t had to zero either red dot either. I got them, but a battery in them and mounted them. They’ve been good for me from 5-50yds so far and I’ve got several thousand rounds with them.

 

[knale87]

Not to hijack the thread, but what size dot (#MOA) is preferred?

I prefer a 2 MOA dot but to each their own.

 

[jonesn3]

I prefer a 2 MOA dot but to each their own.

Gotcha. Would you say 3.25 MOA like on the RMR RM06 is a good middle ground? Initially I was thinking the RM07 with 6.5 MOA…

 

[knale87]

Gotcha. Would you say 3.25 MOA like on the RMR RM06 is a good middle ground? Initially I was thinking the RM07 with 6.5 MOA…

Could be. I don’t have any experience with any RMR or that size dot. I’ve shot a friend’s EPS Carry with a 6 MOA dot, and for me, it was too big. I’m sure others can chime in.

 

[bpitcher]

Gotcha. Would you say 3.25 MOA like on the RMR RM06 is a good middle ground? Initially I was thinking the RM07 with 6.5 MOA…

3.25 on the 06 is about the perfect compromise between speed and accuracy for me. Great sight, I've got two.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Dot sizes can vary a lot. It depends on you and your use case. Smaller dots are a bit slower for me but more precise. Bigger dots are faster.

I have some 2-3 MOA dots on rifles and they are fine. I like the extra precision at distance and they work well enough up close and at speed.

I prefer bigger dots on pistols and shoot them faster. YMMV based on skill and how good/bad your eyes are. My primary carry gun is a p365xl wearing a 6 MOA eps carry. I shoot USPSA with a 6 MOA SRO. My steel challenge rifle wears a 10 MOA c-more. It’s fast and easy to pick up but not precise. It works for 10 inch plates inside 30 yards just fine but it isn’t a bullseye sight.

If I were buying today, I would skip the open emitters and anything where you have to remove the sight to change the battery. I have a couple of RMRs in the stable and have stripped screws twice doing yearly battery replacements that required a gunsmith / machinist to fix my mess.

Last point, pay close attention to mounting - degrease, good hardware and mounting plate, torque wrench, loctite. I have had sights shoot loose a couple of times including on an sig 320 which drops mounting screws into the action and can take down the gun along with the sight.

 

[Speaks]

Red dots on pistols are really slick. Though for SD guns I tend to prefer instinctive shooting where no sight is used.

 

[NDGuy]

Won't carry a pistol without a RDS anymore

 

[huntsman22]