Pinwheel Software no longer working and website is down

[cvanman]

I have been trying to get onto Pinwheels software for the past few days, and the website is down with a 503 error.

I emailed Larry, and have not heard any response back from him.

Is pinwheel still in business?

 

[Had a Hoyt]

I have been trying to get onto Pinwheels software for the past few days, and the website is down with a 503 error.

I emailed Larry, and have not heard any response back from him.

Is pinwheel still in business?

I have the same issue. Also emailed him with no response. Hope they are just updating the server or something.

 

[alanarcher]

Mine has been down for days as well. I got a returned undeliverable email message when I tried to send pinwheel support an email, apparently the email server is also down so he probably isnt getting any of our emails. Thinking about buying archers advantage. I like the spine calculator on pinwheel so I hope it comes back up. I just paid for a new subscription a few months ago.

 

[kskanne]

I have been emailing them for a couple of weeks with no reply. I switched to Archers Advantage but comparing my spine calcs between the two, they don't come up with the same point weights for same setup. Not sure who to trust here.

 

[cvanman]

UPDATE - it looks like the software and website are up and running again.

 

[Alpha Echo]

FYI I just upgraded my Samsung phone and my OT2go version didn't transfer, and is not showing up in the Google play store. Guess I'll be subscribing to Precision Cut Archery.

 

[jmez]

Whew. For a second there I thought we might be able to move away from inaccurate speed calculations, KE numbers and underspined arrows.

 

[Alpha Echo]

@jmez Just because I'm dense, is it a known issue that Pinwheel's spine recommendations are always underspined? And I should not rely on them? Or at least always be a certain amount over the recommended spine?

 

[cvanman]

I have had zero issues with underspine and speed issues with Pinwheel.

 

[jmez]

@jmez Just because I'm dense, is it a known issue that Pinwheel's spine recommendations are always underspined? And I should not rely on them? Or at least always be a certain amount over the recommended spine?

Personal preference. You will always be "underspined" with the online programs. My thoughts and experience over the years, according to the online calculators, I've always shot "underspined" arrows. I have yet to ever personally have, or anyone that I have helped, trace a tuning issue back to underspined arrows. IMO it is the most overrated, overblamed thing in archery.

All of the manufactures have spine charts. They have engineers that make and test the arrrows. They aren't intentionally selling products that won't work with your set up. That's just a bad business model.

The speed calculators are never accurate. You will always be faster on the speed calculator than an actual chronograph.

 

[Alpha Echo]

I have yet to ever personally have, or anyone that I have helped, trace a tuning issue back to underspined arrows. IMO it is the most overrated, overblamed thing in archery.

Just to clarify, you mean overspined? In other words a ton of tuning issues can be traced back to underspined arrows, and overspining is extremely rare?