Pine timber value

[sasquatch]

So, been starting to look around for a piece of hunting property to buy. I have been, and will continue to be very picky as I do not want to put out money unless I feel its almost perfect. Last thing I want to do is buy something and then next week something better comes available.

Anyway, I am eyeing up a piece that is roughly 120 acres in Mississippi. Flat non swampy land, where timber would be easy to harvest. It is 40 acres of 30 year old pines that were select cut once, and 80 acres of 25 year old pines that weren't touched yet. What would any of you guys with experience think this timber could be worth per acre?

I know a timber cruise by a professional is the only way to really know and prices vary a lot. I am just looking for a broad based guess.

I don't plan to really cut any but I am trying to figure out what kind of value the timber alone carries in the sale price.

 

[N.ID7803]

These may help, the problem with where you are is the amount of timber available keeps the price's low. An industrial timberland owner would be cutting those stands in 5 and 10 years respectively.

There has to be a forester on here somewhere that could shed some light.

https://timberupdate.com/timber-prices/mississippi-prices/

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[pirogue]

I was going to link a chart for another state, but it is about the same. Bottom line is Southern Yellow pine saw timber prices have been terribly low for many years.

 

[sasquatch]

Problem is having any idea how to convert acres to tons as a clueless person lol


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[Split toe]

So, been starting to look around for a piece of hunting property to buy. I have been, and will continue to be very picky as I do not want to put out money unless I feel its almost perfect. Last thing I want to do is buy something and then next week something better comes available.

Anyway, I am eyeing up a piece that is roughly 120 acres in Mississippi. Flat non swampy land, where timber would be easy to harvest. It is 40 acres of 30 year old pines that were select cut once, and 80 acres of 25 year old pines that weren't touched yet. What would any of you guys with experience think this timber could be worth per acre?

I know a timber cruise by a professional is the only way to really know and prices vary a lot. I am just looking for a broad based guess.

I don't plan to really cut any but I am trying to figure out what kind of value the timber alone carries in the sale price.

If you are not going to harvest the trees, another option is carbon credits to help generate a little income.

 

[TxLite]

When I was looking several years ago I seem to recall that proximity to a local lumber mill and ease of access also impacted pricing.

I’d put some calls out and have it assessed.

 

[Speaks]

I would be surprised if timber value was contributing meaningfully to the price. But I know the MN / WI market better than down south.

 

[jdmaxwell]

In my experience you have to find a buyer that was market for it. You may have some luck but I have seen us have to almost have to give pine away up North just to get someone to cut and take them.
Usually Amish would do it just for boards.

Good thing is acres you have may make more enticing to someone. But tree quality and healthy especially on those butt logs will be a factor.

 

[SloppyJ]

In the south, those pine groves are extremely common. Like someone else said, I would be extremely surprised if the pines were contributing to the asking price. Here in AR, mainly in the south, there are a ton of these areas where they cut and planted some large acreage in pines. It looks cool when you are walking through it but from my experience in ag, they aren't too special. The needles are extremely acidic and take forever to break down.

If you're interested in a southern property for deer and timber on the side, look for a species like white oak that bear acorns, attract deer, and are worth something. That's just my opinion.

 

[N.ID7803]

Another good article, you can kinda see the trend.
I would try to get ahold of the state forestry agency and see if they can help you to determine value. I’m in forester in Idaho, and the Idaho Department of Lands has folks that will come out and help private landowners with their forests, so maybe something similar in Mississippi.

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