Pics of Custom Seek Outside Packs

[Kevin_t]

Kevin, have you heard of anyone using carbon arrows as a lightweight replacement to the cross bars?

You can do that but the results won’t be great due to lack of shaping and likely getting crushed . If you want a lighter solution a better option is cutting a piece of bamboo flooring to similar dimensions or using bent aircraft aluminum tube but flattening the ends so it won’t roll


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[gexpro]

I recently placed an order for a lanner style custom bag+suspension in spectragrid. Eager to put it through the paces this season.

Great Choice! I have the same style and fabric shipped and on its way. I’ll post some photos of it when it arrives.

 

[TimberPhantom]

Mine just arrived today! It's the 5400 (Lanner) size with a side zip, breakaway frame, internal load shelf, no face pocketing, lumbar pad, talon, and multicam suspension & accents. First ordered the 4800 in that configuration but opted for the 5400 bag because it has the built-in collar pocket that I can use in place of a lid. Haven't had time to adjust or play with it too much but it feels great as is. Really like how the hip belt has two adjustment points on each side. I didn't think it would make a difference but it really seems to latch onto my hips when I have a little weight in there. More so than any other brand, at least from the feel of wearing it for a few minutes. Lots of attachment points around the bag and frame for strapping down loads or compressing the pack. I used a KUIU water bladder holder to hang between the frame and bag and seems like it will work great.

I've owned several of the major pack brands and can tell you I'm most excited about this pack out of all of the ones I've tried. Going to put it through the wringer soon and report back. Seek Outside's customer service was phenomenal. They quickly answered all of my questions and changed my order when I realized that I wanted the 5400 instead of the 4800.

 

[Clarktar]

Mine just arrived today! It's the 5400 (Lanner) size with a side zip, breakaway frame, internal load shelf, no face pocketing, lumbar pad, talon, and multicam suspension & accents. First ordered the 4800 in that configuration but opted for the 5400 bag because it has the built-in collar pocket that I can use in place of a lid. Haven't had time to adjust or play with it too much but it feels great as is. Really like how the hip belt has two adjustment points on each side. I didn't think it would make a difference but it really seems to latch onto my hips when I have a little weight in there. More so than any other brand, at least from the feel of wearing it for a few minutes. Lots of attachment points around the bag and frame for strapping down loads or compressing the pack. I used a KUIU water bladder holder to hang between the frame and bag and seems like it will work great.

I've owned several of the major pack brands and can tell you I'm most excited about this pack out of all of the ones I've tried. Going to put it through the wringer soon and report back. Seek Outside's customer service was phenomenal. They quickly answered all of my questions and changed my order when I realized that I wanted the 5400 instead of the 4800.

Is there a tear in the second picture? On the top of the bag.

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[mlgc20]

Is there a tear in the second picture? On the top of the bag.

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I think that’s the Seek Outside patch.

 

[TimberPhantom]

That is just the logo patch

 

[Rokwiia]

@TimberPhantom Great-looking pack. Looking forward to how it feels after a few outings.

I've got a custom 4,800 underway that I'm looking forward to. It is in XPac 33. Seek Outside does phenomenal work.

 

[Drenalin]

Is the short tail discontinued, or temporarily out of production?

Edit: Nevermind, found my answer!

 

[gexpro]

Custom Lanner 5400 SpectraGridHD.
Internal load shelf and break away platform.

The new hip belt pocket design is very nice.

Put 40lbs in and adjusted it, very impressed at how comfortable the suspension is and carries..

Exactly 1LB lighter over my KUIU LT5500..
Can’t wait to get this out in the field and real world test.

 

[Jac]

I have a lanner 5400 with some extras in the mail. Cant wait!!!

 

[Marbles]

You can do that but the results won’t be great due to lack of shaping and likely getting crushed . If you want a lighter solution a better option is cutting a piece of bamboo flooring to similar dimensions or using bent aircraft aluminum tube but flattening the ends so it won’t roll.

I was not looking for a lighter solution, but now you have me wanting to steam bend some bamboo just to see how it turns out.

Aluminum has a density of 2.7 g/cm^3 while bamboo has a density of around 0.6 to 0.9 g/cm^3.

Bamboo is stronger when it is dry, so I'm guessing for anyone who does not live in the desert a clear coat of resin would be advisable to seal it.

Of course there will be significantly more variation in samples of bamboo than in aluminum, however this gives an interesting comparison.

6061-T6 Aluminum vs. Bamboo Plywood :: MakeItFrom.com

www.makeitfrom.com

Over all, my conclusion is that bamboo will be lighter, and weaker in proportion to the weight savings. With careful use, I'm willing to bet the bamboo will work well, though I'm also willing to bet hard use will see the bamboo fail while the current aluminum stays would not.

 

[Dos Perros]

I was not looking for a lighter solution, but now you have me wanting to steam bend some bamboo just to see how it turns out.

Aluminum has a density of 2.7 g/cm^3 while bamboo has a density of around 0.6 to 0.9 g/cm^3.

Bamboo is stronger when it is dry, so I'm guessing for anyone who does not live in the desert a clear coat of resin would be advisable to seal it.

Of course there will be significantly more variation in samples of bamboo than in aluminum, however this gives an interesting comparison.

6061-T6 Aluminum vs. Bamboo Plywood :: MakeItFrom.com

www.makeitfrom.com

Over all, my conclusion is that bamboo will be lighter, and weaker in proportion to the weight savings. With careful use, I'm willing to bet the bamboo will work well, though I'm also willing to bet hard use will see the bamboo fail while the current aluminum stays would not.

I don't think 6061-T6 is the best material for tube bending, if you're looking for a comparison. It's going to crack.

 

[CoStick]

Is the short tail discontinued, or temporarily out of production?

Edit: Nevermind, found my answer!

Is it?

 

[Marbles]

I don't think 6061-T6 is the best material for tube bending, if you're looking for a comparison. It's going to crack.

That was just the best data I could find without too much work that should have some generalizability to replacing the 7075 cross stay Seek Outside uses with bamboo.

7075 is a better material than 6061 in most ways other than workability, but my guess is there would be more variance between bamboo samples than between the two Al alloys. I would love disconfirming data though. At the moment this idea is just a break from actual research I have to get done though, so there is a decided lack of effort on my part.

If I experiment with this, it will probably go no further than making one iteration from bamboo and seeing how it performs. Kevin just got my curiosity up. I have no intention of playing with Al tubing, only bamboo.

 

[Drenalin]

Is it?

Yeah, found a couple posts from @Kevin_t that it is discontinued, not a great seller. Shame though, a multicam Short Tail would have been perfect for me for eastern whitetail hunting and western day hunts.

 

[Marbles]

Looks like hickory has a specific gravity of 0.72 vs. 7075 Al's of 2.73. Hickory also has a higher flexural strength than bamboo at 20,200 psi while bamboo comes in around 14,500 psi (varies greatly between species). 7075 comes in at 83,000 psi. Anyone who is an engineer, please shred these ideas if it looks like I don't know what I'm talking about, because I don't know enough to know if I'm miss applying concepts.

Looks like hickory would have 25% of the strength of 7075 while being only 25% of the weight. Of course I'm assuming those numbers apply to dimensionally similar pieces rather the pieces of similar mass.

Anyway, perhaps I'll just use one of the broken tool handles I have laying around.

Wood Strength: Grain Direction and Measurements

Learn how grain direction and strength measurements affect wood's performance. Compare relative strengths of common hardwoods and softwoods for woodworking projects.

workshopcompanion.com

Mechanical Properties for Bamboo

What are the mechanical properties of bamboo? It is propably one of the most frequently asked questions among European or American architects, engineers and builders. Such information is easily found and available for wood, steel, concrete or even engineered bamboo products such as flooring and pane

www.bambooimport.com

Ok, I'll stop. Hopefully someone gets a laugh out of my armature dabble in engineering.

 

[CoStick]

Yeah, found a couple posts from @Kevin_t that it is discontinued, not a great seller. Shame though, a multicam Short Tail would have been perfect for me for eastern whitetail hunting and western day hunts.

Okay, well if you are looking for just the bag I have one new I would part with. I have been just using my 4800 cinched down.

 

[RockChucker30]

Kevin, have you heard of anyone using carbon arrows as a lightweight replacement to the cross bars?

You can also remove them completely. The original packs didn’t have cross stays….I still remove them and go without. A bit of care in loading and no issues.


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[Kevin_t]

I was not looking for a lighter solution, but now you have me wanting to steam bend some bamboo just to see how it turns out.

Aluminum has a density of 2.7 g/cm^3 while bamboo has a density of around 0.6 to 0.9 g/cm^3.

Bamboo is stronger when it is dry, so I'm guessing for anyone who does not live in the desert a clear coat of resin would be advisable to seal it.

Of course there will be significantly more variation in samples of bamboo than in aluminum, however this gives an interesting comparison.

6061-T6 Aluminum vs. Bamboo Plywood :: MakeItFrom.com

www.makeitfrom.com

Over all, my conclusion is that bamboo will be lighter, and weaker in proportion to the weight savings. With careful use, I'm willing to bet the bamboo will work well, though I'm also willing to bet hard use will see the bamboo fail while the current aluminum stays would not.

That is correct . Bamboo will work well , until you throw in an 80lb load and cinch it super tight . Normal use , bamboo is fine


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[tdot]

Looks like hickory has a specific gravity of 0.72 vs. 7075 Al's of 2.73. Hickory also has a higher flexural strength than bamboo at 20,200 psi while bamboo comes in around 14,500 psi (varies greatly between species). 7075 comes in at 83,000 psi. Anyone who is an engineer, please shred these ideas if it looks like I don't know what I'm talking about, because I don't know enough to know if I'm miss applying concepts.

Looks like hickory would have 25% of the strength of 7075 while being only 25% of the weight. Of course I'm assuming those numbers apply to dimensionally similar pieces rather the pieces of similar mass.

Anyway, perhaps I'll just use one of the broken tool handles I have laying around.

Wood Strength: Grain Direction and Measurements

Learn how grain direction and strength measurements affect wood's performance. Compare relative strengths of common hardwoods and softwoods for woodworking projects.

workshopcompanion.com

Mechanical Properties for Bamboo

What are the mechanical properties of bamboo? It is propably one of the most frequently asked questions among European or American architects, engineers and builders. Such information is easily found and available for wood, steel, concrete or even engineered bamboo products such as flooring and pane

www.bambooimport.com

Ok, I'll stop. Hopefully someone gets a laugh out of my armature dabble in engineering.

If you want to try lightweight wood, look into Paulownia. It's the strongest hardwood for its weight. It can be steam bent or laminated into curves. I'd personally try it before bamboo... if I wanted pure strength Ash or Whiteoak are two to look at as well.

From using my Seek packs, I've never had the impression that the cross stays are heavily loaded, otherwise the velcro attachment system utilized wouldn't work.