Pew Science

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Anybody a member? What are your thoughts? After thinking about it, this actually seems like the best way to accurately compare cans. I have heard some guys don't like pew science, but never heard reasons why.
 
Anybody a member? What are your thoughts? After thinking about it, this actually seems like the best way to accurately compare cans. I have heard some guys don't like pew science, but never heard reasons why.
He charges for some of his data. Seems to make some mad. I don’t ever blame someone trying to make a Buck off their skills.
 
I see that he charges for his data, but it's not that much and if it is true unbiased data, it may be worth the price. I could see how this could be a non starter for some tho.
 
Highly suggest being a member if you are a data nerd and obsessed with suppressor performance like me. If you take the time to learn his ways and throughly learn and read about the reports...you will enjoy seeing his weekly drops.

After heavily researching this topic over the past two months. Nobody is even close to imitating what Jay does. Buying a high end meter (the $40,000 and up kind) and capturing accurate muzzle and ear numbers along with wave form data is only one part of the equation.

I personally think it has taken him decades to perfect the craft of measuring suppressors to the scientific depth that he does. Read his about me. The guy is more qualified than just about anybody.

The growing amount of people that refuse to buy a suppressor without PEW Science data behind it is telling. He's the most trusted 3rd party source in the suppressor world. Full stop.

Additionally, some companies are salty because they either don't do well on PEW or know they wouldn't do well on PEW because their marketing / sales roadmap is based on hype and self testing. That works temporarily until people get sick of seeing, "this is the best suppressor ever" and want to see it actually tested to the extensive scientific and engineering standards of PEW.
 
Highly suggest being a member if you are a data nerd and obsessed with suppressor performance like me. If you take the time to learn his ways and throughly learn and read about the reports...you will enjoy seeing his weekly drops.

After heavily researching this topic over the past two months. Nobody is even close to imitating what Jay does. Buying a high end meter (the $40,000 and up kind) and capturing accurate muzzle and ear numbers along with wave form data is only one part of the equation.

I personally think it has taken him decades to perfect the craft of measuring suppressors to the scientific depth that he does. Read his about me. The guy is more qualified than just about anybody.

The growing amount of people that refuse to buy a suppressor without PEW Science data behind it is telling. He's the most trusted 3rd party source in the suppressor world. Full stop.

Additionally, some companies are salty because they either don't do well on PEW or know they wouldn't do well on PEW because their marketing / sales roadmap is based on hype and self testing. That works for some until people get sick of seeing, "this is the best suppressor ever" and want to see it actually tested to the extensive scientific and engineering standards of PEW.
I do think he does good work from what I’ve seen.

I however get more out of seeing the Tbac summit where suppressors are matched against their peers in similar situations. That’s what I get the most out of.
 
I do think he does good work from what I’ve seen.

I however get more out of seeing the Tbac summit where suppressors are matched against their peers in similar situations. That’s what I get the most out of.

We are submitting to Silencer Summit too. The only issue is muzzle and ear numbers tend to be the only story there. With PEW it's muzzle/ear numbers, tones, impulse duration, spikes, gas behavior, and more scientific based observations that determines the complete story of a suppressor. It literally exposes both good and bad engineering from the most controlled, science based approach.

For instance, PEW can test two suppressors that get the exact same muzzle and ear numbers. Suppressor A could have an initial impulse spike that drops off, while Suppressor B has an impulse spike that doesn't drop off and stays around longer. Your ear is exposed to greater damage with Suppressor B even though it metered the same as Suppressor A. Jay takes into account everything, which determines suppressor ranking. Not a single dB number.

That's why dB numbers, though important, don't make one suppressor better than another necessarily.
 
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