Petition to ban hound hunting - AZ Game and Fish Commission

[01lowbird]

The problem with that logic is anyone could make an argument against the next hunter for anything. Examples, it's not fair to use a compound bow, binoculars, a rifle, modern boots, and so on. All sportsmen and sportswomen need to stick together, otherwise once the antis get enough traction, they'll be coming after what you prefer the most next.

I'm not sure thats fair to me or anyone to be honest. I can have an opinion just as can you on any topic. Diminishing my opinion because it doesn't effectively support your case or any cause with enough vigor to satisfy you is not how the world works.

 

[tallbuchholz]

I'm not sure thats fair to me or anyone to be honest. I can have an opinion just as can you on any topic. Diminishing my opinion because it doesn't effectively support your case or any cause with enough vigor to satisfy you is not how the world works.

Of course you can have an individual opinion about an activity, but failing to recognize that these attacks are targeting hunting as a whole will weaken our ability to defend against them. They're saying "just ban lion hunting with hounds," but what they mean is "ban lion hunting with hounds first, and then we'll ask to ban the next most controversial thing until we've banned all hunting." This is the right place to draw the line because this is where the fight is, not because it's where your personal line would be drawn.

 

[go_deep]

I'm not sure thats fair to me or anyone to be honest. I can have an opinion just as can you on any topic. Diminishing my opinion because it doesn't effectively support your case or any cause with enough vigor to satisfy you is not how the world works.

Sometimes putting something into a text, verse actually talking something out can come off one sided.
I'm not telling you what option to have, or that you can't have one, I have several options on things I like and don't like about particular types of hunting, but if we stand back and let antis outlaw those types of hunting, guess what they'll be aiming for next? The type of hunting I like, or you like. Look no farther than the West Coast states to see how that playbook has been ran and worked for many types of hunting.

I'm not asking you to publicly advocate for hound hunting, just don't stand against it, because unfortunately as the hunting rights dominos fall, sooner or later, it'll be your that falls.

 

[mt terry d]

Good thing we pay experts to manage our wildlife.

Oh, wait.

Nevermind.

 

[Trap]

Using dogs is super cool. I appreciate the hard work into training the dogs. I appreciate the nostalgia of it. There's a lot to like.
However it does feeeeeel a little bit like a cheat. Having dogs tree an animal or corner an animal, then just shooting it.... IDK it's not for me.
I see both sides.

Have you been on a hound hunt for lion or better yet bear? I appreciate your honest opinion but most people who feel its cheating have not actuslly experienced it. I have had some "easy" lion hunts but I have also had more than a few easy deer or elk hunts. some of the hardest most stressfull hunts I have had were also behind dogs. If you have not done it -I suggest going on a few hunts first. If you have been on a number of hound hunts and feel its cheating I will respect that opinion. Anyways I appreciate at least your honest response on here and will echo prior posts that this is ALL about getting rid of ALL forms of hunting and we need to stick together. trgardless

 

[BBob]

People have this idea that you just let the hounds out and you go kill something. Nope, not even close. Way more to that whole deal.

 

[madtinker]

I was a bit conflicted about hound hunting until I thought of this: it’s not all that different from falconry (train an animal to find the prey for you).

And I’ve always thought falconry was sooo cool. So sure, I may not use hounds myself, but I’ll support your right to use them.

 

[Stubborn_bowhunter]

Using dogs is super cool. I appreciate the hard work into training the dogs. I appreciate the nostalgia of it. There's a lot to like.
However it does feeeeeel a little bit like a cheat. Having dogs tree an animal or corner an animal, then just shooting it.... IDK it's not for me.
I see both sides.

It's the most ethical way to hunt them from a conservation stand point.

It allows better confirmation of gender and age of animals. Often lion and bear hunting without dogs turns into shooting the first one people see.

It's not a tool for you, but it really is the best tool for managing these animals whether you want to use it or not.