Peterson 's Hunting - Small caliber article

[KurtR]

Exactly. And a 223 doesnt meet that definition.

So you’re saying a well placed shot from a 22 caliber with the right bullet doesn’t kill fast enough? Multiple people, pictures and data and you’re the only one that’s right……

 

[BuckSmasher]

So you’re saying a well placed shot from a 22 caliber with the right bullet doesn’t kill fast enough? Multiple people, pictures and data and you’re the only one that’s right……

The ones it worked on

 

[omicron1792]

The ones it worked on

Yeah. Cause none of the newbies to small calibers would post their bad outcomes?

With all the bitching people do here they wouldn’t love to tell the small caliber crowd how stupid they are and how they cost them the BOAL?

Yeah right.

 

[BuckSmasher]

Yeah. Cause none of the newbies to small calibers would post their bad outcomes?

With all the bitching people do here they wouldn’t love to tell the small caliber crowd how stupid they are and how they cost them the BOAL?

Yeah right.

People love being right about what they have already comitted to. Very rarely do people actually stop and reconsider.

 

[omicron1792]

People love being right about what they have already comitted to. Very rarely do people actually stop and reconsider.

That make absolutely zero sense in this situation.

 

[MTlan66]

I never wanted to use a .223 on elk, but I’m about ready to buy one and try it. Not because of those that have used it and say it works, but because of those that haven’t and say it doesn’t.

 

[BuckSmasher]

That make absolutely zero sense in this situation.

Look at us arguing on the internet and not insulting or acting ugly!

 

[omicron1792]

Look at us arguing on the internet and not insulting or acting ugly!

With that I agree.

 

[Marbles]

Exactly. And a 223 doesnt meet that definition.

I get it, you are trolling. 223 with a good bullet kills very quickly.

People love being right about what they have already comitted to. Very rarely do people actually stop and reconsider.

Describing yourself perfectly here.

I once thought a 30-06 was minimum for AK hunting. Because I'm not pig head I reassessed and kept questioning until I abandoned my former position and carry a 223 sometimes when looking for moose or browns.

If you are the jumpy sort that cannot wait for a good shot and hold your nerves, take Kilimanjaro Bells advice and carry the biggest gun you can. Or, learn to manage your nerves and carry something smaller like Bell did himself.

 

[BuckSmasher]

I get it, you are trolling. 223 with a good bullet kills very quickly.


Describing yourself perfectly here.

I once thought a 30-06 was minimum for AK hunting. Because I'm not pig head I reassessed and kept questioning until I abandoned my former position and carry a 223 sometimes when looking for moose or browns.

If you are the jumpy sort that cannot wait for a good shot and hold your nerves, take Kilimanjaro Bells advice and carry the biggest gun you can. Or, learn to manage your nerves and carry something smaller like Bell did himself.

Nahhh.

 

[BuckSmasher]

I never wanted to use a .223 on elk, but I’m about ready to buy one and try it. Not because of those that have used it and say it works, but because of those that haven’t and say it doesn’t.

That is its main appeal. There isnt a 700 page thread for .308. Everyone knows its works. It would be boring.

 

[kooch]

I showed up for my one and only Colorado elk hunt years ago with a .270 and 150 grain partitions. All the other Midwestern tools I was with had 300WM rifles and thought I was stupid for bringing "such a small gun". Before the outfitter left us to ourselves he asked us all what we were shooting. He seemed pleased to see my .270. It turns out my "small gun" worked fine. All of the magnum guys but one lost or missed elk. It's interesting to me to witness the slow change in that's happening with cartridges. Imagine the horror if I'd shown up with a .223!

 

[Marbles]

That is its main appeal. There isnt a 700 page thread for .308. Everyone knows its works. It would be boring.

As with everything else, you speak of things you don't know. Everyone certainly doesn't believe a 308 works on elk.

H

Thread 'The elk shoulder that stopped a 308'

Jan 2, 2024

At about 12:30 host of show recounts experience and provides photo evidence of a cow elk shoulder that stopped a terminal ascent bullet at 350 yards from a 308 win. Rifle appears to be a tikka. A few more experiences recounted including issues with ELDX.

I had a similar experience out of a 6.5 143 eldx this year at same range on a bull, but did not take photo. For clarity, I still will and would hunt elk with a 6.5 or .308. Just sharing!

• Hagas4all
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[The Guide]

That is its main appeal. There isnt a 700 page thread for .308. Everyone knows its works. It would be boring.

You should check out the "308 for everything" thread. It's not "700" pages yet but we're still working on it...

Jay

 

[BuckSmasher]

You should check out the "308 for everything" thread. It's not "700" pages yet but we're still working on it...

Jay

Lol ok will do.

 

[JackButler]

Exactly. And a 223 doesnt meet that definition.

Hmmm. I personally witnessed over 150 deer that would disagree if they weren’t dead, The furthest one running about 50 yards.

 

[mwoolsey5]

Yeah. Cause none of the newbies to small calibers would post their bad outcomes?

With all the bitching people do here they wouldn’t love to tell the small caliber crowd how stupid they are and how they cost them the BOAL?

Yeah right.

This right here. We should all be data/results driven decision makers. I don’t need to be right. I want the truth. Right now, I see the small cartridge debate using an absolute mountain of data to back up their claim and another side that is very much using thoughts and feelings. Nobody that has made the switch to a smaller cartridge is getting back on hear claiming to be hoodwinked or providing stories/evidence that they shot animals and they didn’t die. I agree with the quoted post, people bitch on Rokslide about everything, you really think they wouldn’t come back and raise hell if they invested in a smaller cartridge system that didn’t work?

There’s a mythical anatomy of elk in people’s heads for some reason that does not align with reality. The smaller cartridges with specific bullets are absolutely getting sufficient penetration to reach the vitals and the wound channels speak for themselves.

 

[The Guide]

As with everything else, you speak of things you don't know. Everyone certainly doesn't believe a 308 works on elk.

H

Thread 'The elk shoulder that stopped a 308'

Jan 2, 2024

At about 12:30 host of show recounts experience and provides photo evidence of a cow elk shoulder that stopped a terminal ascent bullet at 350 yards from a 308 win. Rifle appears to be a tikka. A few more experiences recounted including issues with ELDX.

I had a similar experience out of a 6.5 143 eldx this year at same range on a bull, but did not take photo. For clarity, I still will and would hunt elk with a 6.5 or .308. Just sharing!

• Hagas4all
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The misinformation in that video is astounding.

Jay

 

[JohnJohnson]

I get it, you are trolling.

It's to the point that it's obvious. I set him to Ignore because it seems he either does low effort trolling or genuinely doesn't realize how he comes across. The latter possibility is kind of scary.

 

[BuckSmasher]

It's to the point that it's obvious. I set him to Ignore because it seems he either does low effort trolling or genuinely doesn't realize how he comes across. The latter possibility is kind of scary.

Oh the horror!