Peak quality large SUV

eric1115

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I've always driven older vehicles, the thought of a loan/payment on a $50k++ depreciating asset makes me break out in hives.

We have a 2011 Expedition EL that is getting pretty long in the tooth. I've been looking at late teens to maybe early 2020's and it seems like major issues are there with both the newer Ford (cam phasers in the 3.5) and GM (continued AFM shenanigans). Have any of you had experience bulletproofing either of these?

At this point I'm thinking a mid-teens 5.7 Sequoia might be my best option. I don't need all 8 seats as often anymore, but do need that capability still from time to time. If I didn't need some cargo space behind the 3rd row I'd get a late 100 or early 200 series LC and be done. As is, the Sequoia feels like it might be on the edge of being too small.

I consider myself a Toyota guy at heart, I have a 2005 Sequoia with some go-fast suspension (Fox coilovers, Camburg control arms, etc) and an old Land cruiser that I love, but the space in a Suburban size vehicle is so nice with a big family.

I had been considering holding out for Ford/GM to get their shit together and sort out their mid to late teens issues, but it seems like reliability on both (and Toyota as well) is continuing to decline as complexity due to emissions/fuel economy restrictions increases. My gut says the wündertürbo motors (and hybrid power trains) are here to stay and the last of the NA V8's are going to represent the peak of the curve, with low mileage good condition examples getting harder to find.
 
Understand what your talking about with the gmc issues lifter issues on those are absolutely hit or miss on if you’ll get a good or bad one but transmission wise on the gm’s as long as you keep up on maintenance like changing the fluids you’ll be good. Also only buy one if the the original owner has been doing maintenance on the transmission, I don’t know why but I’ve always been told if your fluid hasn’t been changed regularly on the transmission don’t start because somehow it will make it worse
 
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