Outfitters offering cash for a pin

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Watch your mouth. It’s honest work.




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This makes sense

 

[roosiebull]

We are at a crux between capitalism and the North American conservation model.

Capitalism will win. I’m just not on the right side of that one. Nor do I fully agree with it.

Very well said

 

[roosiebull]

Watch your mouth. It’s honest work.




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Well, of course you’d think so


But I agree, I’ve thought about starting a side hustle/front hustle

 

[Pharmseller]

And it’s cash money.

Quit judging.

 

[roosiebull]

And it’s cash money.

Quit judging.

I would still pay taxes on it, and hopefully they do too

 

[Zak406]

Honestly if I was a hunter who had that tag why not just cut the guide out of the equation. A guide is meant to put you on game not pay for people’s spots.

 

[jrh357]

Saddening what’s some people would do for a little bit of money and a picture

 

[Laramie]

Just a matter of where people draw the line. OnX sells a service that kills way more animals than will ever be impacted by an outfitter looking for one big one. All of you are happy pressing the easy button as long as it fits socially acceptable standards. Take away GPS and see what happens to draw odds, trophy quality, etc. Remove gohunt, outdoor forums. Etc... same effect. Otc good tags existed just a couple decades ago. Outfitters offered finders fees way back then... don't necessarily agree with them but they aren't the problem. Technology is and there is no putting it back in the bag.

 

[idahodave]

The poor dude that is mining my waypoints. He is in for a major let down.

That’s funny as chit!

 

[ODB]

We are at a crux between capitalism and the North American conservation model.

Capitalism will win. I’m just not on the right side of that one. Nor do I fully agree with it.

Not capitalism, human nature. It's not capitalism that ruins things, it's people's inability to restrain themselves from doing things that are legally permissible, but morally/ethically questionable. It's the same old argument of, "Well, as long as it's legal it must be fine." No. Laws describe the lowest expected behavior from a person, not the highest/most ethical. It's the tragedy of the commons yet again, which is driven by the failings of human nature.

 

[Justin Crossley]

Not saying I like it bit isn't an outfitter paying people for info the same as him paying 10 guides to go out and search for a trophy for a high paying customer?

 

[realunlucky]

Not saying I like it bit isn't an outfitter paying people for info the same as him paying 10 guides to go out and search for a trophy for a high paying customer?

No it's not the same as this throws a much much bigger net to catch the biggest fish.

It's been happening on utahs limited entry units for a long time, everyone fancys themselves as part of Mossbacks crew.

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[IDVortex]

I need to become a politician, become wealthy from my fellow American peasants, and then go hire a guide to find me the biggest bull elk and let everyone lesser than me that I'm superior due to my money and power.



Yes, I do know that the guy who is hiring this outfitter isn't known. This was more of a opinion.

 

[dirtytough]

So someone gets paid for a big animal and the animal dies.

Or someone poaches the big animal and the animal dies.

At least some young guy can make some money and the animal is killed legally.

 

[IDVortex]

So someone gets paid for a big animal and the animal dies.

Or someone poaches the big animal and the animal dies.

At least some young guy can make some money and the animal is killed legally.

Rather this guy kill a animal versus a certain paid poacher do it instead.

 

[realunlucky]

So someone gets paid for a big animal and the animal dies.

Or someone poaches the big animal and the animal dies.

At least some young guy can make some money and the animal is killed legally.

Everything hunting related doesn't have to be about making a dollar from the animal being killed.

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[IDVortex]

Everything hunting related doesn't have to be about making a dollar from the animal being killed.

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Truth, it's the fact the consumer (we in general) have made it that way sadly. I would say it's gotten worse in the last 15ish years.

 

[CorbLand]

So someone gets paid for a big animal and the animal dies.

Or someone poaches the big animal and the animal dies.

At least some young guy can make some money and the animal is killed legally.

Seems like a mighty big assumption that the big deer will get poached.

Going to have to use this thought process if I ever shoot a two point. “Well, had to shoot him. Would have hated for him to get big and someone poach him. Just doing my duty.”

 

[IDVortex]

Seems like a mighty big assumption that the big deer will get poached.

Going to have to use this thought process if I ever shoot a two point. “Well, had to shoot him. Would have hated for him to get big and someone poach him. Just doing my duty.”

Dang. I'm curious on something now.

@mtwarden, what was the average size/sex of poached animals of guys you dealt with?

 

[dirtytough]

Rather this guy kill an animal versus a certain paid poacher do it instead.

I’m dense so I guess I don’t know what you mean.

Everything hunting related doesn't have to be about making a dollar from the animal being killed.

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You are a mod on a website that makes money off of hunting. Should the owners donate every cent they make above the operating costs? Or is it fine if they make money off of hunting?

Seems like a mighty big assumption that the big deer will get poached.

Going to have to use this thought process if I ever shoot a two point. “Well, had to shoot him. Would have hated for him to get big and someone poach him. Just doing my duty.”

Kind of a joke. I’ll try to put a winky face or something like that in my next sarcastic post. I do believe a lot more big animals get poached than people realize though.

Dang. I'm curious on something now.

@mtwarden, what was the average size/sex of poached animals of guys you dealt with?

That would actually be a great separate thread. How many animals are poached and how many of the poached animals are big?