Out of State Hunters-Idaho

[Praxeus]

Read this thread carefully. I have hunted the Idaho Panhandle for the last several years. I absolutely love Idaho....however, there are just too many guys out there. I am in favor of a drawn system for non- residents. That would be a game changer. It works...seen it first hand. And- not sure I will ever go back to hunting N. Idaho due to just too many guys. When a guy is drawn after paying a premium for hunting privilege in another state, I believe there is a little more appreciation when there are 'hoops' to jump through. Skin in the same.

There are pros and cons to whatever decision is made. Additionally-Im all about outlawing all motorized (e-machines) and keep this as organic as possible. This levels the playing field and provides everyone with the same potential hunting experiences.

Are you all for outlawing horses as well them to keep it a even playing field?



Just my 2 cents.

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No. Horses are legit. I thought i said "motorized". Personally, Im all about hoses being used...why not?

 

[Ross]

As wrench notes work hard and you seldom see many hunters actually far from a road eight days in heavily hunted unit saw two guys at 10 am one morning heard one person bugle at 7 am a mile away and heard one person cow call to my bugle from distance the only hard core hunter I encountered daily could out hike me and for sure hunted more days check out my Instagram feed for your real competition in the Idaho panhandle

 

[7Bartman]

Headed back from Idaho now and all the ATV traffic on the closed roads were mostly resident hunters. Had more than one stalk get messed up by a 'handicapped' guy on a razor with a cocked and loaded crossbow held by his 18 year old son. This was on a closed trail mind you.

 

[Praxeus]

Headed back from Idaho now and all the ATV traffic on the closed roads were mostly resident hunters. Had more than one stalk get messed up by a 'handicapped' guy on a razor with a cocked and loaded crossbow held by his 18 year old son. This was on a closed trail mind you.

Wow....sounds like up the N fork of the Couer da Alene.....crazy up there. I know guys that have had their "personal spots" for years that told that they will never go back....just too much traffic. Shame as the N fork has a very healthy elk herd

 

[Rob5589]

Got back yesterday from 76 out of Soda for 8 days. Counting ourselves, there were 4 other non res we saw; 1 Texas, 1 Illinois (that's a drive!), 2 Utah, and 1 Wyoming. None had UTV's, Illinois/Texas were in a horse corral area so we assumed they were on horseback. There were a boat ton of residents blasting around on UTV's but, none were off trail.
Point being, everyone knows that area is huge yet there were very few non res hunters (during our time there).

 

[Pwells10]

I don't have a problem with most NRs. Especially the guys back east. Missouri, Penn, NY, MN, even Georgia. They have left their camps spotless and even better than when they showed up. I've had the worst experience from the locals mostly. But the Utah guys (in our area atleast) every single year have left garbage, beer cans, trash bags, oil cans, to name a few things. Next season in reporting them. Tired of picking their trash up. And yes i know not all Utah hunters are like this, I have a few that have hunted with me in the past. The worst though are the locals. Rude, think they own the land and leave trash.

I welcome the guys back east to come at any time they want. Wouldnt even mind hunting with them.

 

[Pwells10]

Got back yesterday from 76 out of Soda for 8 days. Counting ourselves, there were 4 other non res we saw; 1 Texas, 1 Illinois (that's a drive!), 2 Utah, and 1 Wyoming. None had UTV's, Illinois/Texas were in a horse corral area so we assumed they were on horseback. There were a boat ton of residents blasting around on UTV's but, none were off trail.
Point being, everyone knows that area is huge yet there were very few non res hunters (during our time there).

Same area. Where abouts were you camped?

 

[Rob5589]

Open area near Smokey Canyon road. Unfortunately, no elk. Good encounter but my "sexy talk" didn't do the trick. After that, they really shut down to only bugling at night. Made them tough to find.

 

[Pwells10]

Open area near Smokey Canyon road. Unfortunately, no elk. Good encounter but my "sexy talk" didn't do the trick. After that, they really shut down to only bugling at night. Made them tough to find.

Not sure where that is. But same for us. Only heard 3 bugles all week. It was weird. Got on elk running to water 2 days ago. They werent even talking to eachother. Never had that happen in all the years hunting there. Dad and uncle been hunting it since 86. They never had that happen in those years.

 

[sneaky]

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I feel like that just comes with the territory of public land.

You're lucky that you've got access to hundreds of thousands of acres at your back door that every American helps pay for with their tax dollars. But you want to complain about non-resident hunters utilizing it?

It sounds like you need to bite the bullet and lease some private land then you can have the place all to yourself like we do in Texas.

As a non-resident hunter it chaps my ass to hear people lay claim to public land for the simple fact that you live in that state. We all have reasons to live where we do, family, jobs, cost of living etc.

However what we all have in common is the right to enjoy the public lands that we all pay for and it doesn't matter what license plate is on your truck when you show up.

Cry me a river. No one cares about Texas. The state of Idaho owns the animals, you can utilize the land however the hell you want but you'll abide by Idaho's rules when it comes to the animals.

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[jonnycoder]

I was in McCall zone 2 weeks ago and was shocked on how little amount of hunters I saw. Only saw one side by side the entire weekend. Got on a fresh elk trail, must have been at least 50 elk passed through that day. Came down the mountain and saw a truck with Idaho plates had showed up. No other vehicles around. Had mini elk antlers in the windshield, made me think "I wonder if that's Elknut Paul".

 

[Upchurch_k]

Cry me a river. No one cares about Texas. The state of Idaho owns the animals, you can utilize the land however the hell you want but you'll abide by Idaho's rules when it comes to the animals.

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I'm not sure you even read the thread, or maybe you did and your reading comprehension isn't the best.

Not once did I say anything about the animals, nor did the person I was responding to. He made it sound like he was tired of seeing non-residents on ATV's. I was merely stating that comes with the territory of hunting on public land, so I made the suggestion that he lease land, like we do, so you can have the place to yourself.

Seems like you might have jumped the gun in your smartass response...

 

[BullElk]

lease land in idaho...thats funny!

 

[jetsled]

Upchurch....comprehension? Really? And your talking about leasing land.....in Idaho? Spoken from a typical out of stater. Clueless to Idaho and why we love it here.....Hook em Horns baby. Lol.

 

[Randle]

lease land in idaho...thats funny!

Been here since the 70s and now over last few years I have had landowners offer to have me manage their property . As in when someone asks to hunt their ground he would give them my number. one said he is so tired of dealing with poachers, road hunters, trespassers. And it is locals doing all the damage to fences, gates, shooting from the roads etc.
These are just good friends that let me take my grandkids hunting on their ground. I would not be paid or have to pay but I have heard of people having offers of leasing in N Idaho.

 

[Upchurch_k]

Upchurch....comprehension? Really? And your talking about leasing land.....in Idaho? Spoken from a typical out of stater. Clueless to Idaho and why we love it here.....Hook em Horns baby. Lol.

You're getting caught up in the semantics of what I'm trying to say.

I'm sure leasing land in Idaho is laughable, and in your words "spoken like a true out of stater."

The point I was trying to make in my very first post, that you actually had a smartass response to yourself, is that if you're going to bitch about people using public land, whether resident or non-resident, you should probably look at hunting on private land in whatever way possible. It seems pretty ignorant and spoken like a true "resident" to bitch about people using public land, that's all my point was trying to say.

I've never been to Idaho, I'm sure it's awesome, I'm glad you love your state, I love Texas. There's nothing wrong with having pride for your home state.

 

[Brandon_SPC]

Good Lord... Man y'all think public land out west is crowded I would hate for y'all to come hunt public land out east lol

 

[Rick M.]

I hunted unit 31 this year for archery elk and it was a shit-show. No matter how deep we hiked in we saw/heard only two things - domestic cattle and atvs. Its was ridiculous. We would be working a drainage only to hear ATVs doing laps upon laps through every trail. We never saw a single instance of a non-domestic animal. Super frustrating experience.

 

[Bisley45]

The distribution of a$$holes and idiots is the same across states, genders, and time.

Here in Arkansas when the show duck dynasty was popular every Tom, Dick and Harry turned into a duck hunting pro and folks came in from around the world to hunt east Arkansas. Every launching ramp was full of jacked up 3/4 ton bro-dozers pulling 20k duck boats and dudes wearing white oakleys and flatbrims hats. The 4AM horn would blow and is was/still is a nocturnal drag race through flooded timber at night time. Folks would get in fights over duck holes and locals would damage OOSers vehicles in parking lots. I saw really dumb stuff from both locals and OOSers. Now days the fad is backcountry hunting, and the bayous are much more quite these days. It will likely die back in a couple years.

I will be one of those OOSers, leaving for Idaho in a couple hours. I will do my best to be the most courteous man on the mountain. My boots are the only "ATV" I'm taking.

 

[Lucky Goose]

I come from Alabama with my own two quads. Left and right models. There's not a day that goes by that I don't think about Idaho ground. I cherish my time there and am grateful for every step I take and couldn't be more respectful. Also, whenever I have met locals y'all have been VERY gracious and supportive. Thank you for sharing.

I've gone for 10-days solo and not seen a soul but have also gone on hunts where I literally have never seen more pressure. There's good and bad everywhere and a lot of times it comes down to enforcement and ease of finding and understanding the regulations. USFS, BLM, and State Regs are a LOT to pour over for an eastern guy. Alabama's ENTIRE hunting and fishing regulations book is 80 pages, JUST Idaho's Big game Rules and season's book is 124. Ignorance is not an excuse and I spend a LOT of time making sure I am 100% legal, but some guys just don't know. If you're not computer savvy nowadays I don't know how some guys would ever 100% figure it out.