Out of State Hunters-Idaho

[Idaho Sandman]

That’s for trails “Already designated MOTORIZED”, you know, where quads, side by sides and motorcycles already go. I couldn’t care less until they’re allowed on NON motorized trials.

 

[Coach529]

I see them all the time on Non Motorized trail, FS roads behind gates, etc.

 

[njdoxie]

I've gotten past the 'education' phase nowadays due to flippant attitudes.

If you've bought the licences and tags, you can read the regs and follow them. Ignorance has no place.

Breaking the laws/regs means a call to the F&G, when in service, otherwise info and photos and reporting when back in town. I don't reason with a drunk driver on the road, I just call the cops...

^^^ this.....wish everyone would make it their business to report lawbreakers, all the time.

 

[IdahoElk]

^^^ this.....wish everyone would make it their business to report lawbreakers, all the time.

I use to catch/report so many people that the F&G officer gave me his home number to call him after hours. I turned in numerous poachers and vehicle violations until I decided to stop hunting areas where these clowns frequented, it's been great for years but now it's starting to happen all over again.

 

[ridgefire]

Been a non resident hunter in Idaho for the last 13 or 14 years now and have yet to see any motorized vehicles in a designated non motorized area. Must depend on where your hunting. Im guessing the more roads/ trails there are in an area the more violators you are going to see. Get away from the roads and you will not have to worry about it.

 

[Deplorable77]

I am a non resident and hunted 66 last year with a family member. I have a different perspective on the subject. After getting few miles from the road I only saw 3 groups. A very friendly local father/daughter hunting. An outfitter coming down off the mountain with his pack train (off trail) , and a local resident riding a clapped out dirt bike 4+ miles from the trailhead. In camp, I saw so many road hunters cruising in atvs & SxS that I thought it was an ohv park. I saw zero out of state plates other than my own. The most disappointing thing was seeing all the quad tracks going through forested areas, creek bottoms and meadows where it's clearly illegal to ride. Things like that are how public lands get closed for everyone. I'm not one to be a guest in someone else's back yard and then complain about it, but from my personal experience, a lot of the finger pointing is in the wrong direction.

 

[Zsyacsure]

My experience is just the opposite. More residents hunters in areas I’ve never seen guys hunt before. Think it’s ok to chainsaw around a gate to drive their side by side in, run motorcycles on restricted trails etc. leave trash on the mountain and at the trailhead. Have this “ phuck you I live here so I’ll do what I want ” mentality.
Non res tag allotment has been the same for a looong time. It’s just with the turn down of the economy in 2008 we didn’t have a lot of non res hunters willing to spend money to come here and hunt. Fast forward to today and a booming economy and people are willing to spend money and tags are selling out at the beginning of August, which I haven’t seen in a looong time.
Most non res I run into are super friendly and respectful of our state.
I’ve lived in a couple bordering states and it’s always been the same sad tune, “ non residents are ruinin mah huntin “.

Agreed ^

 

[kvw4x4]

As a non resident I understand your point. We brought 4 wheelers this year because last year we would hike our butts off only to get passed by a 4 wheeler an hour into the hike. With 4 wheelers it was easy to download the kml file onto my onx with 50 inch and under motorized access road overlay. We drove in to a spot we picked and set up our camp there. We always slept at camp. I noticed a couple things hunting Idaho last week. The area we went into seemed really busy with campers, trailers, quads, and hunters down low. Resident and non resident. Most guys seemed like 50 year old and would putt around on there quads, side x sides, or trucks never getting 100 yards off the trail. We never ran into a single person while off the roads. Even tho we 100 percent obeyed the rules and tried to be friendly must guys wouldn’t wanna even say hi. Only 2 friendly guys. One from Oregon and one from Wyoming. 2 bad for all the too good for us guys. We ran out of time and had to head home. But coulda dropped them a pin on a nice herd bull we had encountered the morning we left. If they wanna upcharge the non resident fees $100 it won’t scare me away at all. Thanks Idaho I killed my first bull this year.

 

[Wrench]

Non res here, Ive logged a lot of miles in the panhandle and never got passed by a human or horse. I will even share a pics of my trail...

Honestly, I'd enjoy a real life elk hunter in my area. I think two groups of good hunters could kill the shit out of the group of bulls I've been harassing.

 

[IdahoElk]

Been a non resident hunter in Idaho for the last 13 or 14 years now and have yet to see any motorized vehicles in a designated non motorized area. Must depend on where your hunting. Im guessing the more roads/ trails there are in an area the more violators you are going to see. Get away from the roads and you will not have to worry about it.

I agree with what you're saying 100% but what non residents don't understand is we hunt all season and can't pack miles in everytime we want to hunt. I also hunt before or after work close to home,that is when you see all the funny business going on,not when I'm 8 miles in at my main camp.

 

[Upchurch_k]

^^
I feel like that just comes with the territory of public land.

You're lucky that you've got access to hundreds of thousands of acres at your back door that every American helps pay for with their tax dollars. But you want to complain about non-resident hunters utilizing it?

It sounds like you need to bite the bullet and lease some private land then you can have the place all to yourself like we do in Texas.

As a non-resident hunter it chaps my ass to hear people lay claim to public land for the simple fact that you live in that state. We all have reasons to live where we do, family, jobs, cost of living etc.

However what we all have in common is the right to enjoy the public lands that we all pay for and it doesn't matter what license plate is on your truck when you show up.

 

[jetsled]

^^^Obama Voter above....take cover.

 

[wind gypsy]

^^^Obama Voter above....take cover.

Texans can be like Californians in that they messed up their state so bad they don't think you should complain about how they impact yours because it's already so much better

 

[IdahoElk]

^^
I feel like that just comes with the territory of public land.

You're lucky that you've got access to hundreds of thousands of acres at your back door that every American helps pay for with their tax dollars. But you want to complain about non-resident hunters utilizing it?

It sounds like you need to bite the bullet and lease some private land then you can have the place all to yourself like we do in Texas.

As a non-resident hunter it chaps my ass to hear people lay claim to public land for the simple fact that you live in that state. We all have reasons to live where we do, family, jobs, cost of living etc.

However what we all have in common is the right to enjoy the public lands that we all pay for and it doesn't matter what license plate is on your truck when you show up.

What the heck are you talking about? Where did I say in any of my posts that I was against non res hunters,please quote me.
What area are your favorite deer stands located so roksliders can come down and hunt with you in November.

 

[idelkslayer]

While I am understanding of the NR hunting pressure especially in the panhandle and Southeast Idaho, I do find that locals are just as likely to be idiots and violate motorized travel rules. They are also just as likely to be the ones leaving empty beer cans all over the woods. (boggles my mind that you can carry in a full can but can't carry out an empty).

I can't do much to stop the bad behavior and rule breaking but a small rock jammed down on a valve stem core can put a damper on their day.

 

[wind gypsy]

Non res here, Ive logged a lot of miles in the panhandle and never got passed by a human or horse. I will even share a pics of my trail...

Honestly, I'd enjoy a real life elk hunter in my area. I think two groups of good hunters could kill the shit out of the group of bulls I've been harassing.

I'd love to join ya, but those greedy residents bought up the NR tag quota

 

[Upchurch_k]

What the heck are you talking about? Where did I say in any of my posts that I was against non res hunters,please quote me.
What area are your favorite deer stands located so roksliders can come down and hunt with you in November.

No you didn't say you were against non-residents, I read it as you were upset with non-residents not taking into consideration that you need to hunt all year. While we normally only have a small window, it read to me like you're time is more important than a non-resident.

Maybe I read it wrong, or jumped to an incorrect conclusion? If so, my bad, not trying to call you out personally it just seems like there's a lot of people who dog on non-residents here. Some for good reasons like stated in this thread, others simply dog on them because they're non-residents.

^^^Obama Voter above....take cover.

Awesome response, glad you could add value to the conversation.

 

[SlimWhitman]

Saying all non resident hunters do this or all resident hunters do that is step one to writing an illogical statement.

Peoples behaviors are not decided by their residency.I would bet if a non res would break the rules in another state they would break them in their own.

These threads always end up ridiculous. Blanket statements always end up being incorrect when you break them down to a person by person instance.

I hunted Idaho last year as a non res and moved to Colorado last month and hunted here this year as a non res.

Elk hunting is awesome. The reason you do it is the same reason that person you’re complaining about does it.


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[Dustin the wind]

I understand both sides of the coin. Ultimately if idfg wants to crack down on non-res regs then that is what's going to happen. At a certain point we all need to realize that living in and being a resident of a particular state gives you certain benefits in that state. Hunting opportunities are no different. Out of state people probably would not protest, care, or be on this thread at all if we were talking about loosening out of state rules. You are coming from another side of the country, harvesting a natural resource which is regulated and maintained with money paid for by citizens of said states tax dollars. Should we run fish and game federally so all states have the same rules? I don't hunt out of state, I know I'm biased here, I moved from Oregon and have skin in the game now. I just want to see Idaho keep residents as priority one, many of whom don't have 6 figure incomes in some suburb somewhere that can afford to spend a few thousand dollars driving across country for an animal every year. Idaho has pretty much every hunting opportunity I want in the country and I realize that makes it very popular and now expensive for non-res but that is one of the big reasons why I MOVED here.

 

[805Bowhunter]

I have been fortunate enough to not have too many of these types of experiences, but when I have, it has been seemingly equal representation of residents and non-residents in breaking the law with regard to side by sides/quads etc. This is only one of the times I ever open my mouth when hunting to voice my displeasure with the situation. From my responses from these folks, it always seems that the residents state, "I dont need to follow the rules because I am a local and I live here." Non residents typically state, "I am from out of state and wasnt aware I was breaking the law." Ends up being nice because then nobody is following the law. Sucks for everybody playing by the rules.

As a NR who hunts Idaho probably every 3 or so years, I completely support the fee increases as well as the reduction in NR tags. It is important that Idaho residents decide how they want to manage the resource. Its a great state and its important to ensure it stays that way even if there are sacrifices that NR hunters need to make. As a resident in CA, I want to ensure that states do not follow the path we have gone down.