Try sum 185 juggernauts they shoot well out of my Tikka 300 wm,,,, The 180 elites are a slick bullet to tryI have a Tikka 300 WM with a 1:10” twist. I don’t have the mag length to load VLDs above 200 gr efficiently anyway so it is a moot point with the Tikka. Hornady prints a twist rate of 1:10” on the 200 gr ELD-X bullet box. However most of my hunting and the range is above 7000ft so 1:11” would probably work just fine for me.