NR wyoming mule deer with zero points

[Western Hunter270]

Hey guys, I'm wanting to hunt wyoming this year for mule deer. I've never put in so i have no points. I'm wanting to know what the easiest unit to draw for a nonresident would be that has high country alpine hunting opportunities. I've been hunting Montana's highcountry my whole life and own horses so the steeper and deeper the better. Thanks

 

[bowhunter307]

This year? High alpine muley as a NR? I'm sorry but even 5 minutes of research on the WGFD website would tell you this is impossible for multiple reasons.

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[Western Hunter270]

This year? High alpine muley as a NR? I'm sorry but even 5 minutes of research on the WGFD website would tell you this is impossible for multiple reasons.

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I'm looking at it for next year the 2023 hunting season. Why would it be impossible. I haven't really looked into it yet.

 

[bowhunter307]

There's a difference between "this year" and 2023.

For 2023 it is possible, but any areas in high alpine that aren't wilderness area are typically high point draws. And unless you're going with an outfitter or WY resident guide you aren't hunting high alpine wilderness.

There's a great hunt planner on the WGFD website that will answer these questions for you.

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[Western Hunter270]

There's a difference between "this year" and 2023.

For 2023 it is possible, but any areas in high alpine that aren't wilderness area are typically high point draws. And unless you're going with an outfitter or WY resident guide you aren't hunting high alpine wilderness.

There's a great hunt planner on the WGFD website that will answer these questions for you.

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Sorry, i didn't realize that i said this year. I meant next year. Are you saying it's illegal to hunt high alpine wilderness without a outfitter or guide or is it just extremely difficult?

 

[bowhunter307]

Sorry, i didn't realize that i said this year. I meant next year. Are you saying it's illegal to hunt high alpine wilderness without a outfitter or guide or is it just extremely difficult?

No worries.

Yes, and I'm not trying to be rude but you REALLY need to spend a few hours on WGFD site and read through regs and look at the map. Nonresidents cannot hunt wilderness areas without a guide. And I haven't looked at all units but I'm about positive that any unit in the state that has "high alpine" is either wilderness area, or takes 9+ points to draw as a NR.

Some areas for example you could draw with zero points are Region F and Y, but again anywhere above treeline is wilderness area.

Take some time, look at the regs, and review the map and draw odds and all your questions will be answered.

Deer | Wyoming Game & Fish Department

Wyoming hosts both mule deer and white-tailed deer. Mule deer are Wyoming’s most abundant and sought-after deer. Mule deer are found from high in the western mountains to the low elevation creek bottoms of eastern Wyoming and most habitats in between.

wgfd.wyo.gov

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[Jethro]

I haven't really looked into it yet.

Take some time, look at the regs, and review the map and draw odds and all your questions will be answered.

Bowhunter307's answer is spot on. You have a much higher probability of getting some helpful info if you show you did some research first.

 

[KHNC]

You can hire an outfitter and hunt private land with 0 points. Around Sheridan is prime private land hunting.

 

[Laramie]

No worries.

Yes, and I'm not trying to be rude but you REALLY need to spend a few hours on WGFD site and read through regs and look at the map. Nonresidents cannot hunt wilderness areas without a guide. And I haven't looked at all units but I'm about positive that any unit in the state that has "high alpine" is either wilderness area, or takes 9+ points to draw as a NR.

Some areas for example you could draw with zero points are Region F and Y, but again anywhere above treeline is wilderness area.

Take some time, look at the regs, and review the map and draw odds and all your questions will be answered.

Deer | Wyoming Game & Fish Department

Wyoming hosts both mule deer and white-tailed deer. Mule deer are Wyoming’s most abundant and sought-after deer. Mule deer are found from high in the western mountains to the low elevation creek bottoms of eastern Wyoming and most habitats in between.

wgfd.wyo.gov

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Good advice above.

There are a few spots in the state a guy can hunt above treeline in easier to draw areas without being in wilderness. The one I have experience with isn't great but there are some decent bucks killed occasionally.

 

[Western Hunter270]

Good advice above.

There are a few spots in the state a guy can hunt above treeline in easier to draw areas without being in wilderness. The one I have experience with isn't great but there are some decent bucks killed occasionally.

What region would I have to draw? As far as like the letter of the region. I don't need the specific hunt area number. I just want to know an area that I can get a tag easily and then I can start researching that area instead of trying to figure out what tags I can and can't get.

 

[CC11]

Go to Wyoming's website and search draw odds, it'll show you right there what you can and can't draw. Do some of your own research, Wyoming is pretty easy to navigate, instead of asking others to do it for you.

 

[waldo9190]

Wyoming Game and Fish website is (IMO) one of the easiest to navigate and understand in terms of the data for draw odds, harvest numbers, etc. If you put in a couple hours of research, you'll be better in the long run for planning hunts for any game in the state. Teach a man to fish vs. give him the fish...

 

[Western Hunter270]

Well to tell you guys the truth I actually spent like an hour on the wyoming website as well as other websites and it was all so confusing and I couldn't figure it out so I just said I didn't look into it not wanting to look like an idiot but as much shit as you guys have gave me already I think I'd rather sound like an idiot than sound like I didn't try.

 

[Western Hunter270]

Like what is the difference between special preference points, special random draw, preference points and random draw? Also how can you have an area with a quota of 106 and 370 people that put in for it yet the draw odds are still 100%
It doesn't make any sense to me

 

[Laramie]

What region would I have to draw? As far as like the letter of the region. I don't need the specific hunt area number. I just want to know an area that I can get a tag easily and then I can start researching that area instead of trying to figure out what tags I can and can't get.

If I posted it here, you would no longer be able to draw it because 100 other guys who don't take the time to research would also apply with you- making it much lower odds.

Take your time and read through the site. It isn't hard but it does require a bit of time. It is a heck of a lot easier than any other western states draw though.

 

[mparks270]

Like what is the difference between special preference points, special random draw, preference points and random draw? Also how can you have an area with a quota of 106 and 370 people that put in for it yet the draw odds are still 100%
It doesn't make any sense to me

Search for Wyoming on Randy Newberg's podcast or YouTube.

 

[Indian Summer]

Wyoming has the most informative and easy to navigate websites out there. If you don’t have the patience to learn what you need to know on there you don’t have the patience to hunt high country mulies. You have to glass until you’re crosseyed.

Preference points are explained very easily. Draw odds are easy to figure out. It just takes some time. Oh and dedication. You won’t learn everything over night. You have plenty of time to learn and research. Now is a good time to start.

Rokslide has some very experienced hunters. But they earned it and don’t give handouts for free. The more you know from your own hard work the more respect you’ll get and if you have legitimate questions about something that people know isn’t easy to learn online you’ll get the answers you need. Kinda how life in general works. Good luck!

 

[wapitibob]

Like what is the difference between special preference points, special random draw, preference points and random draw? Also how can you have an area with a quota of 106 and 370 people that put in for it yet the draw odds are still 100%
It doesn't make any sense to me

 

[Indian Summer]

Here….

Wyoming Game and Fish Department - Preference Points

wgfd.wyo.gov

 

[Western Hunter270]

Thank you. That was very helpful. Much more helpful than everyone else telling me to just figure it out when I clearly stated that I tried to figure it out and I couldn't.