‘No Excuses’ Bullet users - show some results

[Wrench]

 

[Wrench]

And this is the hot ticket speed loader. It will hold musket caps or 209s

Amazon.com

 

[Legend]

I tried with the felt wads and without, and just couldn't seem to get consistent accuracy. Has anyone tried using a patch with these like with a round ball?

There is not enough room to patch a full conical.

What is your twist rate?

 

[5MilesBack]

There is not enough room to patch a full conical.

What is your twist rate?

1 in 28".

 

[Legend]

1 in 28".

Assuming you have a .50cal that should spin the lighter ones. When you think you are having stability issues try a shorter/lighter bullet. I have a 1:24 50 cal and use the 460 grain ones.

The other accuracy things I do are :

Concistenscy....do everything exactly the same. I weigh my powder and sort my bullets.

Also getting a feel for loading pressure on the push rod will also play a role in accuracy.

Good luck

 

[cnelk]

Maybe go up .001 in bullet size

 

[Wrench]

My hawken is 1:48 twist and it will stabilize the 460 to at least 500 yards. My other rifles are all tighter twist at 28 and 24 and they too shoot it fine and I've shot the 600 in my knight to 200 with good results.

The felt wad, especially lubed, seems to be quite important for the last bit of accuracy. The wad must help seal up and I know it reduces gas cutting on the bullet. The results of which are seen in my videos above. I am not shooting anything fancy in the rifle dept. It's a stock rifle with a tuned trigger and a set of sights with a developed load.

Some day I will do a similar video with the knight or wolf to show that the rifle is not as important as many think.

Do remember that I am shooting 2f swiss which is about the easiest to light and most consistent powder available.

 

[5MilesBack]

Maybe go up .001 in bullet size

I already have the .503" and perceived loading pressure never changed from the smaller sizes. Both guns measure for a .500" with the Thor sizing pack. I might just try to load a small patch first and then the NE and see if that changes anything. It always feels like the felt wads aren't going down the barrel straight. I've tried the 460's and 420's.

 

[cnelk]

I already have the .503" and perceived loading pressure never changed from the smaller sizes. Both guns measure for a .500" with the Thor sizing pack. I might just try to load a small patch first and then the NE and see if that changes anything. It always feels like the felt wads aren't going down the barrel straight. I've tried the 460's and 420's.

When I cut my cork for my bullets, I use just a little dab of Elmer’s glue to hold it in place

 

[fishslap]

485gr 54 Hawken 100 yds

What powder and volume (or weight) are you using? I’ve been hunting with patched round balls but recently picked up the Lyman GPH and some no excuses.

 

[Joelweb]

I already have the .503" and perceived loading pressure never changed from the smaller sizes. Both guns measure for a .500" with the Thor sizing pack. I might just try to load a small patch first and then the NE and see if that changes anything. It always feels like the felt wads aren't going down the barrel straight. I've tried the 460's and 420's.

Some people like to use an oversized wad, such as a 54 cal wad in a 50 cal barrel. I start mine with a bullet starter and then push them down the rest of the way with my ramrod. I haven't had much trouble getting them to go down straight when I use a little care.

 

[5MilesBack]

Some people like to use an oversized wad, such as a 54 cal wad in a 50 cal barrel.

Ya, that's what I have.

 

[Foldem]

460 gr at somewhere from 40-60 yards. At the shot stood there for 5-10 seconds and fell over backward

 

[coacht84]

460 gr at somewhere from 40-60 yards. At the shot stood there for 5-10 seconds and fell over backward
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Beautiful bull. What setup you shooting? Rifle, sight/scope, powder, charge, cap/primer?

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[Muleyczy]

My hawken is 1:48 twist and it will stabilize the 460 to at least 500 yards. My other rifles are all tighter twist at 28 and 24 and they too shoot it fine and I've shot the 600 in my knight to 200 with good results.

The felt wad, especially lubed, seems to be quite important for the last bit of accuracy. The wad must help seal up and I know it reduces gas cutting on the bullet. The results of which are seen in my videos above. I am not shooting anything fancy in the rifle dept. It's a stock rifle with a tuned trigger and a set of sights with a developed load.

Some day I will do a similar video with the knight or wolf to show that the rifle is not as important as many think.

Do remember that I am shooting 2f swiss which is about the easiest to light and most consistent powder available.

Your shooting a 460gr no excuse with what charge Swiss 2F?

 

[Wrench]

Your shooting a 460gr no excuse with what charge Swiss 2F?

80grs 2f swiss

 

[5MilesBack]

460 gr at somewhere from 40-60 yards. At the shot stood there for 5-10 seconds and fell over backward

Good looking bull. Man, that last pic looks real familiar.

 

[MTlurker]

What powder and volume (or weight) are you using? I’ve been hunting with patched round balls but recently picked up the Lyman GPH and some no excuses.

Hogdon pyrodex RS, 90-100gr volume based on powder measure I haven’t been weighing. Good luck

 

[Hackleback]

Took a Utah bull in 2023 (you can find the writeup with a bit if searching) and a cow elk in 2024. Both were single shots, with a follow up "insurance" shot.

 

[coacht84]

Took a Utah bull in 2023 (you can find the writeup with a bit if searching) and a cow elk in 2024. Both were single shots, with a follow up "insurance" shot.

haha. Why not include the link?

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