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[Mike D Texas]

What scope/reticle are you using?

Edit - I looked up the FML1 and the thin crosshairs appear to be the same 0.07 mil as the SWFA 3-9 so I don’t think I would have any trouble with it. The TMR reticle is the one that is too fine for me.

You have to be thinking of the PR1 or 2 reticle. The TMR is almost too bold at max magnification.

 

[BAKPAKR]

You have to be thinking of the PR1 or 2 reticle. The TMR is almost too bold at max magnification.

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No, it is the TMR in the Mark 5HD 3.6-18 that I am talking about. The thin lines on it are too fine for me at low power to be useful without illumination in the woods. Just a .02 mil jump to .07 mil makes a big difference at low power. I guess it would cover up about 2.5 inches at 1000 yards though.

Per Leupold:

 

[BAKPAKR]

From memory, Bushnell's stated weights for the LRTS and LRHS lines were not accurate. I think I made a post or two here a few years ago that gave weights for the three different models I had.

[And you mentioned you regretted getting rid of your 3-12. If from your username, you're in NZ, feel free to PM me: I sold one to someone here who may want to part with it, so I could put you in touch.]

I don’t have my LRHS2 mounted on anything so I weighed it today and got 27.8 ounces/788 grams (I was thinking it was around 28 ounces). My 3-12 is on a rifle so I can’t re-weigh it right now but I am pretty sure that it was within 1.5 ounces of the LRHS2.

Edit: I just looked up the post by @Dobermann and it confirms what I remembered about the 3-12. He had 26.4 oz/748 grams.

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Post in thread 'Which scope as a new host for the THLR reticle?'

Sep 22, 2023

Ya I'd be real happy with that. I have 2 of the original LRHS 3-12's and that scope would be awesome with the THLR reticle.

I would too ... though mine weighs in at 26.4 oz / 748 grams.

Apparently, the LRHS2 was done specifically at George's request, so I guess that's the cloest contender we have to a precedent ...

• Dobermann

 

[pathnz]

My 3-12 weighed 680 grams

 

[BAKPAKR]

My 3-12 weighed 680 grams

Hmm. That is quite a difference.

 

[Dobermann]

Hmm. That is quite a difference.

hmm ... now you and @pathnz have me intrigued, so I looked up my notes from a few years ago:

LRTS 3-12
Stated weight: 27.3 oz / 774 g
Actual weight: 26.56 oz / 753 g
With sunshade: 27.65 oz / 784 g

LRHS 3-12
I didn't note stated weight, but think I have the Bushnell catalog saved if anyone really wants it.
Actual weight: 25.75 oz / 730 g
With sunshade: 26.74 oz / 758 g

Not sure that I recorded a weight for my LRTS 4.5-18 and it's currently mounted.

 

[pathnz]

hmm ... now you and @pathnz have me intrigued, so I looked up my notes from a few years ago:

LRTS 3-12
Stated weight: 27.3 oz / 774 g
Actual weight: 26.56 oz / 753 g
With sunshade: 27.65 oz / 784 g

LRHS 3-12
I didn't note stated weight, but think I have the Bushnell catalog saved if anyone really wants it.
Actual weight: 25.75 oz / 730 g
With sunshade: 26.74 oz / 758 g

Not sure that I recorded a weight for my LRTS 4.5-18 and it's currently mounted.

Bushnell advertised the 3-12 at 690 grams and mine was slightly under that.

 

[Kimber7man]

I had a couple of the LRHS 3-12’s way back when. 25.5 ounces. Was a tad bit higher than what George and Pat advertised when they worked with Bushnell on it, they were shooting for 20 ounces. If it would have been in that range they might still be making them…

 

[Formidilosus]

I had a couple of the LRHS 3-12’s way back when. 25.5 ounces. Was a tad bit higher than what George and Pat advertised when they worked with Bushnell on it, they were shooting for 20 ounces. If it would have been in that range they might still be making them…

The LRHS 3-12x was just about a decade too early really. The hunting market wasn’t ready for FFP and mils. The donut also didn’t help at all.

 

[Dobermann]

The LRHS 3-12x was just about a decade too early really. The hunting market wasn’t ready for FFP and mils. The donut also didn’t help at all.

I don't know what numbers they sold, but I wonder if one could make a case that the LRHS 3-12 paved the way for a shift in understanding among (some at least in) the hunting community, and partly paved the way for their being more acceptance today for things such as the RS1.2 and the RokScope ...

SWFA weren't widely known; most other brands failed to keep zero; NF had suboptimal reticles for hunting ... the LRHS reached a wider audience, was reliable (and under 30 oz to achieve that), and showed that (fairly) usable low-power reticles could exist in FFP scopes.

Hard to know for sure, I guess, but if you think back the limited list of scopes you recommended only say 5 or so years ago, it was one of the few - and many of us here chased them down ...

 

[BAKPAKR]

The LRHS 3-12x was just about a decade too early really. The hunting market wasn’t ready for FFP and mils. The donut also didn’t help at all.

I am still kicking myself for not picking up a couple of the $600 3-12s on closeout. But, if the S2H scope comes in at around a $1,000, it will probably be a better deal in today’s dollars and, it will be a hair lighter with more magnification and a better reticle.

 

[Formidilosus]

I don't know what numbers they sold, but I wonder if one could make a case that the LRHS 3-12 paved the way for a shift in understanding among (some at least in) the hunting community, and partly paved the way for their being more acceptance today for things such as the RS1.2 and the RokScope ...

SWFA weren't widely known; most other brands failed to keep zero; NF had suboptimal reticles for hunting ... the LRHS reached a wider audience, was reliable (and under 30 oz to achieve that), and showed that (fairly) usable low-power reticles could exist in FFP scopes.

Hard to know for sure, I guess, but if you think back the limited list of scopes you recommended only say 5 or so years ago, it was one of the few - and many of us here chased them down ...

Nah, it was NF (I would say a word combo of the 1-8x, 2.5-10x, 3-10x SHV, and NX8’s), and the SWFA 6x and 3-9x. Legitimately the shift with hunters and mil FFP scopes is largely from Rokslide. Hunters that shoot PRS have had a part as well, but those are small numbers and they generally just use the same scope hunting as their match rifles.

When the user of Rokslide get behind something, it generally does well.

 

[Formidilosus]

I am still kicking myself for not picking up a couple of the $600 3-12s on closeout. But, if the S2H scope comes in at around a $1,000, it will probably be a better deal in today’s dollars and, it will be a hair lighter with more magnification and a better reticle.

They were good scopes for sure. I was never a fan of them over the 3-9x SWFA- mostly because I despise donuts in reticle; but they were a good design. For $600 they were a steal.

 

[pathnz]

I don't know what numbers they sold, but I wonder if one could make a case that the LRHS 3-12 paved the way for a shift in understanding among (some at least in) the hunting community, and partly paved the way for their being more acceptance today for things such as the RS1.2 and the RokScope ...

SWFA weren't widely known; most other brands failed to keep zero; NF had suboptimal reticles for hunting ... the LRHS reached a wider audience, was reliable (and under 30 oz to achieve that), and showed that (fairly) usable low-power reticles could exist in FFP scopes.

Hard to know for sure, I guess, but if you think back the limited list of scopes you recommended only say 5 or so years ago, it was one of the few - and many of us here chased them down ...

Outside this forum there are plenty of us that have been hunting with FFP scopes for a long time, the merits of the system are self-evident

This is a ffp s&b pmii with P4F on a .223AI shooting 75gr amax that I was hunting with in 2012 - the popular ideas here aren't new, this forum has just caught up recently

 

[pathnz]

Funny that 20 years ago S&B had a really good FFP hunting scope in the 3-12x PMII. 830 grams, great optics and reliability, great reticle. It's been a very long time and there still really aren't options that are a whole lot better.

 

[Formidilosus]

Outside this forum there are plenty of us that have been hunting with FFP scopes for a long time, the merits of the system are self-evident

This is a ffp s&b pmii with P4F on a .223AI shooting 75gr amax that I was hunting with in 2012 - the popular ideas here aren't new, this forum has just caught up recently

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It isn’t a “forum” it’s America. FFP scopes for hunting was widely rare until 5-6 years ago here. As in- never seen in the field.

 

[gbflyer]

Nightforce reticles are not ideal but I’ve hunted with FFP Mil-C and MOAR the last 4 years without issue. They do well from 8x on up and I lean on illumination which works well to push with my left thumb. I also shoot them for NRL/PRS matches so there is a consistency I appreciate.

I own or have owned the RS1.2 Mil and SWFA 3-9 and I still pick the less visible reticle Mil-C because I like the overall scope user experience better on a NX8 or SHV. I also like 0.2 mil holds for wind over 0.5 given the choice.

If I’m in a thick, short range environment I grab my SFP NXS for shooting whitetails from 50-100 yards. For open country or broken country out west it’s FFP for me all the way.

Reticles are well known to be Nightforce’s greatest weakness but they will still see an FFP 2-12 NX6 order from my this spring.

Only have one and it's the little nxs with a MOAR. I can't take a picture through a scope to make it look like it should. In real life it's just fine in the SE AK November rainforest. I can't recall ever really needing to push the button. There are better designs for sure and I probably wouldn't go out of my way for another one. But it's fine for what I do.