Nightforce NX6 Lineup

[tony]

What a second, I thought we hated NF because they support some dipshit poachfluincer?
Either way, too rich for my blood.

 

[Jake Larsen]

Feeling pretty happy with my recent 3-12x42 mildot S&B klassik.

Sure just rub it in lol. I tried so hard to get ahold of the PL3, exposed turret, capped windage version of this scope. Couldn’t find one in the timeframe I needed to purchase. Ended up with the NXS 2.5-10 MIL-R. It’s been fine, but I’m sure looking forward to an Unknown scope, assuming everything checks out.


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[Tl15]

This is a fixed-pie mentality, that severely limits growth and market capture - it's exactly what Private Equity applies to successful companies as they squeeze them to death on the margins. Right before puking them out as a shriveled husk of their former greatness. It might work for product lines and industries where everything is essentially a commodity, racing to the bottom on price point, but it absolutely f*cks innovation and growth.

Want more people buying into your brand?

Give them what they want, or something so amazing they had no idea they even wanted it, but now realize they can't live without, and create an absolutely raving tribe out of them.

Welcome to the Global economy baby.
Damn near our entire world goes through VC to PE to JV to mega conglomerate, or at least follows the model.

Once you hit midsize, or dominate in a space, you don’t innovate and grow organically anymore. That costs money. You sit back, bank on high margin core products, and wait for some new guy to risk it all finding what the market wants. Then you buy him, don’t change the label or the recipe so his tribe stays loyal and you do monthly intercompany transfers to raid the piggy bank. The PE method is not always a race to the bottom or a recipe for mediocrity, it’s just risk mitigation.

 

[Stinky Coyote]

Like dmx Christmas or more christmassy?

From page 3...

Lol...apparently more christmassy was the answer. I see why no response given hahaha, well played Tbone

 

[BRTreedogs]

Why ever shoot at 3x? I am not sure there are very many scenarios where 6x minimum wouldn't work. Half this forum worships the fixed 6x.

Black tail hunting.
You need the rifle up pretty fast, good field of view and no time for zooming

Also I shot an entire family of whitetail once from about 75-125 yards knocked down all 3 in seconds

No time for zooming and wanted good field of view for quickly moving from target to target.

 

[adamantine]

I’d love to see a 3-18 the size and weight of the NXS 2.5-10 with capped windage, better reticles and just center illumination that doesn’t bleed. Be nice if they brought the IHR back too.

This 1000x. Just saw launch today and was super bummed. The 3-18x is basically same weight as NX8, why on earth is it 50mm. And no change to reticles. Flop.

Only appreciable upgrade over NXS is easier change turret. Not even close to worth an extra 3 oz and $$ over the NXS 2.5-10.

Does nightforce folks actually care or read these? Probably not, so I'm just shouting into the void. Maven or Trijicon time

 

[wapitispokes]

The day Nightforce is announcing the NX6 line, or something else?

He was right, it is 1/14 and I got the announcement..

 

[glock233]

Well, it looks like the S2H scope is looking better every day. None of this is going to hit the niche that’s right about everything.

Form probably felt like this announcement was like getting a check in the mail.

 

[Okie_Poke]

I've seen a couple of references to the idea that "the gas gun guys" will like the FC-MRx reticle in 2-12. Like most red blooded Americans at this point, I have a few gas guns, but I am not really a "gas gun guy." Serious question: what's the appeal of a Horus style grid, 20 mils elevation marks, and +/- 10 mils of windage marks for anyone on a 2-12? Are there gas gun competitions where that combination of features is desirable? (I'll admit that I don't see the appeal of a Horus style grid for anything except maybe a military/artillery spotter or something, so excuse my ignorance).

 

[EuroOptic]

I've seen a couple of references to the idea that "the gas gun guys" will like the FC-MRx reticle in 2-12. Like most red blooded Americans at this point, I have a few gas guns, but I am not really a "gas gun guy." Serious question: what's the appeal of a Horus style grid, 20 mils elevation marks, and +/- 10 mils of windage marks for anyone on a 2-12? Are there gas gun competitions where that combination of features is desirable? (I'll admit that I don't see the appeal of a Horus style grid for anything except maybe a military/artillery spotter or something, so excuse my ignorance).

https://geissele.com/competitions
https://thetacticalgames.com/events
mostly these

 

[wapitispokes]

They have refused every effort to do a correct reticle. At this point it is almost purposeful, willful refusal.

And therefore, all the chatter about the reticles is kind of a waste of forum pages, but I guess we gotta vent.

As Form says, whatever NF is doing it is deliberate. Even if they read these pages it will have no impact.

What I want to know is which reticle choices in the NX6 line that we actually have available to us, would be recommended by @Formidilosus for the NX6 scopes suitable for wilderness big game hunting - perhaps starting with the 2-12.

Heck, maybe Form would say go 2FP on the 2-12 NX6.

Or maybe Form would say get the Maven, or get the Trijicon and just skip NF.

 

[43.6N]

@Okie_Poke. Here’s my take on Xmas tree reticle for gas guns:

Youve probably heard of quick drop. You can actually just zero your QD elevation (dial DOWN 2.2 mil for example). Then use the Xmas tree and range card for quick multi range stage engagement. The mil holdovers become your range. So hold at 5.5 for a 550yd target. 2.6 becomes your 260 yd hold etc.

Strelok pro actually had a great function to calculate out your ideal engagement ranges for your QD. It would tell you your expected error at a given range. You could shoot from 150 out to 750 and never be more than 0.3mil off of your true elevation for a 140gr 6.5cm.

 

[Okie_Poke]

https://geissele.com/competitions
https://thetacticalgames.com/events
mostly these

Thanks.

 

[wapitispokes]

You are proving my point. You cant see the center, but my point is you don't need to at those ranges.

All I'm saying is, even with the dozen reticle option nf offers, people still cant be pleased.

True, its like a convention of political conservatives - they agree that the NF reticles suck for hunting, but they are independent minded folks and perhaps can't coalesce around a unifying them. With that in mind, I wonder if it is possible for us to elect a "party chairperson" that lobbies NF representing .. probably tens of thousands of enthusiastic hunters willing to spend $$

Because, I think most of us CAN agree that NF reticles suck for hunting and express disappointment that NF apparently doesn't care.

Further, I wonder if we elected @Formidilosus as our lobbyist / chairperson and had, say, 1,000 people put an X $ deposit on 2-3 reticle designs negotiated by Form or his designee, I wonder if NF would care? We could probably bankroll the design and inventory of a simple reticle. We could trust Form / RS to return deposits (or give to a charity or something) if the mission fails.

How hard could that be to design? Maybe do a special production run, not unlike how Ruger and other manufacturers will make special revolver or pistol runs for the large distributors. Heck NF could even add $100 to the price of the scope for the initial batch and I think they would sell to the RS crowd. But, they shouldn't have to if we bankroll production.

 

[Kauaihunter]

EuroOptic has the NX6 line up on the website to backorder but it crashes when you open up the links to each scope. Not ready yet I guess?

 

[wapitispokes]

@Formidilosus

I posted this as a reply to someone, wanted to make sure you see it. BTW, I'm signed up for the June class.

Further, I wonder if we elected @Formidilosus as our lobbyist / chairperson and had, say, 1,000 people put an X $ deposit on 2-3 reticle designs negotiated by Form or his designee, I wonder if NF would care? We could probably bankroll the design and inventory of a simple reticle. We could trust Form / RS to return deposits (or give to a charity or something) if the mission fails.

How hard could that be to design? Maybe do a special production run, not unlike how Ruger and other manufacturers will make special revolver or pistol runs for the large distributors. Heck NF could even add $100 to the price of the scope for the initial batch and I think they would sell to the RS crowd. But, they shouldn't have to if we bankroll production.

 

[Geewhiz]

@Formidilosus

I posted this as a reply to someone, wanted to make sure you see it. BTW, I'm signed up for the June class.

Further, I wonder if we elected @Formidilosus as our lobbyist / chairperson and had, say, 1,000 people put an X $ deposit on 2-3 reticle designs negotiated by Form or his designee, I wonder if NF would care? We could probably bankroll the design and inventory of a simple reticle. We could trust Form / RS to return deposits (or give to a charity or something) if the mission fails.

How hard could that be to design? Maybe do a special production run, not unlike how Ruger and other manufacturers will make special revolver or pistol runs for the large distributors. Heck NF could even add $100 to the price of the scope for the initial batch and I think they would sell to the RS crowd. But, they shouldn't have to if we bankroll production.

Isn't he financially vested in a scope that is theoretically being manufactured by a different company?

 

[Okie_Poke]

@Okie_Poke. Here’s my take on Xmas tree reticle for gas guns:

Youve probably heard of quick drop. You can actually just zero your QD elevation (dial DOWN 2.2 mil for example). Then use the Xmas tree and range card for quick multi range stage engagement. The mil holdovers become your range. So hold at 5.5 for a 550yd target. 2.6 becomes your 260 yd hold etc.

Strelok pro actually had a great function to calculate out your ideal engagement ranges for your QD. It would tell you your expected error at a given range. You could shoot from 150 out to 750 and never be more than 0.3mil off of your true elevation for a 140gr 6.5cm.

Interesting. I guess combining that concept with someone who just doesn't want to dial makes a grid more understandable. But 20 mils? Even in your hypothetical 10 mils would cover it. Looking quickly at shooterscalculator, even a 223 at 750 yards would need a 40 mph wind to get close to 10 mils of windage. Moving targets I guess? I don't know. To each their own. Thanks for the response.

 

[HuntHarder]

I'll grab one or 2 more than likely. I am going to wait, to look at them in person first tho. I do like the look of the Moa-C reticle. Not perfect by any means, but usable, center dot and no grid.

 

[prm]

I haven’t yet looked through all the comments. This is one of the ideas I drew up four years ago. In general, this is what I want. I have variations of this, but you get the idea. To my best recollection intended these for a 2.5-12x. Little dot only would illuminate. See in the timber at first/last light, and all the references I would need.