Nightforce NX6 Lineup

[Antares]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

The SFP 2-12 is a non-starter with capped turrets (in addition to being SFP/MOA). EDIT: I guess it comes with exposed turrets as well.

The FFP 2-12 comes with a single (terrible) reticle option. In what universe is anyone using 20 MIL/64 MOA of holdover with a 5 MIL/16 MOA wind hold?

What a joke.

 

[wind gypsy]

Like this?

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That would be good. I'd clean it up even a bit more. Maybe make the hashes on the horizonal only go above or below rather than both sides of it. Take the 1, 3, and 5 #s off of vertical stadia.

Id like the horizontal and bottom vertical cross hair to extend closer and stop 0.2 or 0.25 mil from center.

But yeah - @EuroOptic - this is what a FFP hunting reticle should be closer to. The 5-20 SWFA Mil-quad is quite a bit better than anything NF offers reticle wise too.

 

[justin davis]

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www.milehighshooting.com

In stock with prices at Mile High shooting

 

[Geewhiz]

In what universe is anyone using 20 MIL/64 MOA of holdover with a 5 MIL/16 MOA wind hold?

Ok picture this..

You are hunting in the mountains and are presented with a perfect shot opportunity on a nice 2 point. The only problem is he is at 3700 yards. You dial all the elevation your turret has to offer. Thank GOD you have an additional 64 moa on your reticle. KAPOW! DRT.

 

[justin davis]

I don’t think Mil-C is as bad as it’s made out to be. Is it ideal? No, but I have killed critters near to far with it from offhand at 60 yards to way out there and it’s never been a limiting factor. It’s not the perfect hunting reticle by any means but I’m also not going to eat a tag because I’m using it.

Yea I’ve been using the Mil C in the NX8 4-32 and the 2.5-20 F1. Killed animals at 50 yards out to a coyote I shot at 814 yards

 

[Tl15]

For reticle of course...the sfp is an on off switch, works one spot only. Hope you have enough exit pupil and image. The ffp is a range where it works and so far more useful/versatile. Even this old hunter sees the light now having couple seasons playing. I have always disliked the sfp reticle on off switch and will avoid them. Rather figure out a way to see a turret and dial than run sfp. Eyes and time to solution wants reticle so. Just fix the low mag side of ffp and have the full versatility for hunting.

I think manufacturers miss the most obvious step in designing a reticle for hunting. And that’s DEFINE hunting!!! Where is everyone killing in distances and lighting conditions? It’s not that hard. 0-600 to dark for 99% of tags filled. And time is of the essence to fill a tag. So simple is mandatory. If they figure that out should get much easier lol. Seems so obvious. No need to cross over to competition. Whats the scale of percentages of kills that happen to 600? Ie is bull of the kills closer to 600 or closer to 100? Duh, how bout low light ratio? Duh again....how do they miss this?

I don’t know what the on off switch you’re talking about is. Please clarify.

My assertion was that 95% of harvests are inside of 300, so, the following applies.

A slippery bullet in most common chamberings with a 225 yard zero will get you to point and shoot to 250 and easy hold to 300. I don’t need to dial and I don’t need subtensions for that, I just need some basic knowledge of anatomy. If you can’t hold up to 4 inches for wind without a subtension, that’s a problem. You don’t need high mag for 300, and the target image isn’t going to appear too small to accurately aim, so what exactly is the issue with SFP

 

[Browninglover1]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

The SFP 2-12 is a non-starter with capped turrets (in addition to being SFP/MOA).

The FFP 2-12 comes with a single (terrible) reticle option. In what universe is anyone using 20 MIL/64 MOA of holdover with a 5 MIL/16 MOA wind hold?

What a joke.

It comes with an exposed elevation turret too. The windage turrets work great as exposed turrets if you throw the caps away...
My NX8 has been just fine to remove the windage dial cap and leave it in the safe.

 

[Brandon_SPC]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

The SFP 2-12 is a non-starter with capped turrets (in addition to being SFP/MOA).

The FFP 2-12 comes with a single (terrible) reticle option. In what universe is anyone using 20 MIL/64 MOA of holdover with a 5 MIL/16 MOA wind hold?

What a joke.

You can get the SFP in an exposed elevation turrett. They give you a voucher so you can swap it. It was explained in the NF 2-12 video. Granted I wanted a mil/mil but I can get over that and go back to MOA for this scope. Just to have the NF reliability.

 

[Kurts86]

The good thing is that Nightforce regularly updates reticle offerings mid year. All it will take is that update to the 2-12 F1 and it will be awesome.

I’ll be buying the F1 2-12 Mil on the first shipment. I already run the Mil-C reticle hunting so I’ll survive the gas gun abomination reticle.

 

[Walker6]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

The SFP 2-12 is a non-starter with capped turrets (in addition to being SFP/MOA).

The FFP 2-12 comes with a single (terrible) reticle option. In what universe is anyone using 20 MIL/64 MOA of holdover with a 5 MIL/16 MOA wind hold?

What a joke.

I didn’t go their site looking for anything SFP, but the 2–12x42 SFP with a 4A-i reticle might actually be the perfect set-and-forget scope I’ve been looking for for my pretty wood Kimber 84m 7–08 that’s been sitting unscoped since the Great Leupold Purge. That’s a damn good hunting reticle at Fudd ranges and a clean-looking scope with solid guts and glass.

 

[RockAndSage]

I’m a financial ops controller over a 300 million dollar line of business. What I can tell you with absolute certainty, because I’m in the meetings, is the attitude of senior leadership is, “I hear you, and I get it, but they are still gonna buy it at a price that turns a 12% EBIDTA and we’ve hit target for the last x number of quarters.” That’s where it dies, and rightfully so. Just look at how many different ideal hunting reticles have been proposed. It’s an un-winnable venture, so might as well stick with the recipe. Is it right? Maybe not. But it’s how it is. Could very well be wrong in the optics space, but that’s how it’s always been at every company I’ve ever worked for.

This is a fixed-pie mentality, that severely limits growth and market capture - it's exactly what Private Equity applies to successful companies as they squeeze them to death on the margins. Right before puking them out as a shriveled husk of their former greatness. It might work for product lines and industries where everything is essentially a commodity, racing to the bottom on price point, but it absolutely f*cks innovation and growth.

Want more people buying into your brand?

Give them what they want, or something so amazing they had no idea they even wanted it, but now realize they can't live without, and create an absolutely raving tribe out of them.

 

[Antares]

You can get the SFP in an exposed elevation turrett. They give you a voucher so you can swap it. It was explained in the NF 2-12 video. Granted I wanted a mil/mil but I can get over that and go back to MOA for this scope. Just to have the NF reliability.

I guess, but now it's essentially a NXS 2.5-10 that's 3 oz heavier... at least the 2.5-10 comes in a MIL version.

 

[Jud96]

The capped turrets are able to be swapped out to the exposed turrets.

 

[medvedyt]

I didn’t go their site looking for anything SFP, but the 2–12x42 SFP with a 4A-i reticle might actually be the perfect set-and-forget scope I’ve been looking for for my pretty wood Kimber 84m 7–08 that’s been sitting unscoped since the Great Leupold Purge. That’s a damn good hunting reticle at Fudd ranges and a clean-looking scope with solid guts and glass.

and perfect in low light condition at least in theory as we have to see it to believe it.

 

[dreamingWest]

I didn’t go their site looking for anything SFP, but the 2–12x42 SFP with a 4A-i reticle might actually be the perfect set-and-forget scope I’ve been looking for for my pretty wood Kimber 84m 7–08 that’s been sitting unscoped since the Great Leupold Purge. That’s a damn good hunting reticle at Fudd ranges and a clean-looking scope with solid guts and glass.

Agree, but I'd really rather not go back to MOA. If they released the 2/-12 SFP 4A with mil turrets I'd be pretty happy with that scope.

 

[Antares]

Nightforce design team working on a reticle for the NX6 2-12 F1 that will be "an exceptional companion to lightweight hunting guns."

 

[rileybassman]

I don't hate the -C reticles or the MOAR... both MIL and MOA. Not having that as an option on the 2-12 is crazy as that's the scope that stands out to me from this drop as being one of the best lightweight hunting scope options.

Was hoping the 3-18 would be a tenmile replacement and, while shorter which is appealing, it is ~3 oz heavier.

Between the 4-14 SHV and 4-32 NX8, I am glad to see the 3-18, but the NX8 seems to be more scope for only a 1.5 oz penalty. Curious to see eye box and relief etc.

 

[ianpadron]

20 MIL grid....

Who designs these reticles?

 

[Brandon_SPC]

I guess, but now it's essentially a NXS 2.5-10 that's 3 oz heavier... at least the 2.5-10 comes in a MIL version.

The NXS also did not come with a capped windage. That's the main reason why I never bought one. Sliding non-capped windage turrets in and out of ATV cases, even sometimes walking in thick brush, I have had windage turrets rotate. Clearly the SFP was centered around hunters, so I can understand why they went the MOA route. I do agree, it sucks that it didn't come in mils but I can adjust.

 

[ianpadron]

Nightforce design team working on a reticle for the NX6 2-12 F1 that will be "an exceptional companion to lightweight hunting guns."


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