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[ODB]

back when i was a kid there were quite a few blacks that hunted. some had permission to hunt our farm.

Mark, Kevin, Steven, Charles...4 blAck dudes I grew up with in VA that hunted. It was just part of the deal. No one cared they were black. Kevin made ridiculous jerky even as a kid.

I often see a white kid and a black kid playing together and wonder if they consider each other their “black” friend or “white” friend. I doubt it. They are just playing and being kids.

 

[Dos Perros]

I do wish Steve would have told her when she said it was uncomfortable to be out hunting and having people giving her the 3rd degree about why she was there and what she was doing that that is what hunters do to everyone. Someone shows up in your spot it doesn't matter what they look like your gonna be asking some questions.

I kinda thought the same thing. You go out west enough and you're going to run into a rancher hassling you for hunting "his state" or "his BLM." My encounters have always been mostly respectful, if not met gruffly, like not pure confrontational, but you could tell they were annoyed and that they also knew that both of you knew the law so they weren't going to push it.

 

[Gametracker]

What town in West TN did you grow up?

Where I grew up in rural West TN, there was/still is a decent chunk of the local black population who are big time hunters, raising rabbit, squirrel and Coon dogs. There’s even a local Black tradition of serving smoked raccoon for Thanksgiving day breakfast and if you go into local Black owned restaurants, there’s taxidermy on the walls. I didn’t think about it much growing up, but whenever I go back, it’s immediately apparent and I think it’s awesome.

 

[Gobbler36]

Mark, Kevin, Steven, Charles...4 blAck dudes I grew up with in VA that hunted. It was just part of the deal. No one cared they were black. Kevin made ridiculous jerky even as a kid.

I often see a white kid and a black kid playing together and wonder if they consider each other their “black” friend or “white” friend. I doubt it. They are just playing and being kids.

I know first hand after watching my 3 boys play with other ethnicity children that race isn’t even in the equation, it hasn’t been even remotely mentioned in conversations about how their day went. It’s the outside world and mainstream media that want racism alive.
My wife and I joke that only if the world right now could view everything through the eyes of a 6 year old

 

[Turkeygetpwnd38]

Where I grew up in rural West TN, there was/still is a decent chunk of the local black population who are big time hunters, raising rabbit, squirrel and Coon dogs. There’s even a local Black tradition of serving smoked raccoon for Thanksgiving day breakfast and if you go into local Black owned restaurants, there’s taxidermy on the walls. I didn’t think about it much growing up, but whenever I go back, it’s immediately apparent and I think it’s awesome.

Where in W TN did you grow up?

 

[Poser]

Where in W TN did you grow up?

I grew up in McNairy county, but I’m also thinking of Hardeman and Fayette counties as having the attributes as well.

 

[Turkeygetpwnd38]

I grew up in McNairy county, but I’m also thinking of Hardeman and Fayette counties as having the attributes as well.

I grew up in Carroll/Gibson and experienced the same. I’d actually say the majority of the real anglers in the area were black as well.

 

[Poser]

I grew up in Carroll/Gibson and experienced the same. I’d actually say the majority of the real anglers in the area were black as well.

Oh yeah. In the counties along the TN River through TN and AL, the best fisherman are almost always black. Especially if we’re talking catfishing

 

[Poser]

 

[SummitsCalling]

I might be in the minority, but I could careless what someone looks like who is hunting. Trying to include someone because of what they look like into hunting, specifically because of their skin color is the wrong way to do it. Truth is very few younger people care these days. I didn't even know what race was until I moved to the east coast, all of my friends were different than me, because I grew up in the military. It wasn't even mentioned. There is no need to "recruit skin color" in hunting. Just like no one is trying to recruit me to play basketball or tennis because of my skin color. Get the message across of how amazing, and fortunate we are to have these public lands and those who want to participate will.

 

[Gearqueer]

I might be in the minority, but I could careless what someone looks like who is hunting. Trying to include someone because of what they look like into hunting, specifically because of their skin color is the wrong way to do it. Truth is very few younger people care these days. I didn't even know what race was until I moved to the east coast, all of my friends were different than me, because I grew up in the military. It wasn't even mentioned. There is no need to "recruit skin color" in hunting. Just like no one is trying to recruit me to play basketball or tennis because of my skin color. Get the message across of how amazing, and fortunate we are to have these public lands and those who want to participate will.

This ^

I started listening to the podcast but lost interest pretty quick. In the beginning Steve mentioned that his goal has always been to be color-blind in the way that he looks at people and then the guest seemed to disagree. What in the hell is the problem with treating everyone the same?

Because of my time in the military I’m convinced that the sooner we stop using sub-categories to what type of American we are that’s when things will be optimal in our country. That’s what our children naturally do, but it seems like adults and media just have to push the idea that we’re different it into every conversation. I don’t listen to MeatEater for their takes on race issues.

I’m genuinely delighted to see non-whites out hunting, fishing, camping, etc. it would be great to see more of it, but it’s pretty arrogant and patronizing to think that it’s a civic responsibility to enlighten other people (dictated by the amount of melatonin in their skin) of how great our lifestyle is. Let people choose to be passionate in something and they will own it. Be welcoming and helpful when they ask for help. That being said, I think that hunting workshops in urban areas are a cool idea as long as it’s not patronizing.


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[Gobbler36]

I might be in the minority, but I could careless what someone looks like who is hunting. Trying to include someone because of what they look like into hunting, specifically because of their skin color is the wrong way to do it. Truth is very few younger people care these days. I didn't even know what race was until I moved to the east coast, all of my friends were different than me, because I grew up in the military. It wasn't even mentioned. There is no need to "recruit skin color" in hunting. Just like no one is trying to recruit me to play basketball or tennis because of my skin color. Get the message across of how amazing, and fortunate we are to have these public lands and those who want to participate will.

Completely agree

 

[dtrkyman]

Growing up I saw plenty of people of "color" fishing, I did not hunt until I was an adult. There were a group of guys who ran beagles for rabbits on some state land we pheasant hunted, always got a chuckle when we heard the beagles start bellowing! Great group of guys, that become really fond of my cousin who killed a rabbit one day, we came up upon them at the truck, my cousin reached down into in overalls and pulled the rabbit out to show them, they about died laughing!

It is not about color, it's more about culture imho. City folks tend not to hunt regardless of color!

 

[Gametracker]

I grew up in Carroll/Gibson and experienced the same. I’d actually say the majority of the real anglers in the area were black as well.

I grew up in Stewart county, between TN river and Cumberland River. Going back next week to show the wife the area. Might be where I retire.

 

[qwerksc]

Intellectual redneck, with a solid world view, has great banter with a smart outdoors women. These issues have been brought up by every R3 program. The big question is not about race, it is how you present an opportunity to someone, then, how they follow through and the obstacles that make the path difficult to maintain.
I have seen it across the board with hunting and fishing. Awesome activity, now, due to the area, parents, money, transpo, etc...endless hurdles, it's almost impossible to get out there again.

 

[qwerksc]

I like this channel, Beagles are epic!

 

[qwerksc]

I know first hand after watching my 3 boys play with other ethnicity children that race isn’t even in the equation, it hasn’t been even remotely mentioned in conversations about how their day went. It’s the outside world and mainstream media that want racism alive.
My wife and I joke that only if the world right now could view everything through the eyes of a 6 year old

Just another kid on the playground.

 

[OXN939]

This ^

I started listening to the podcast but turned it off pretty quick. In the beginning Steve mentioned that his goal has always been to be color-blind in the way that he looks at people and then the guest seemed to disagree. What in the hell is the problem with treating everyone the same?

Because of my time in the military I’m convinced that the sooner we stop using sub-categories to what type of American we are that’s when things will be optimal in our country. That’s what our children naturally do, but it seems like adults and media just have to insert it into every conversation. I don’t listen to MeatEater for their takes on race issues.

Personally, I’m genuinely delighted to see non-whites out hunting, fishing, camping, etc. it would be great to see more of it, but it’s pretty arrogant and patronizing to think that it’s a civic responsibility to enlighten other people (dictated by the amount of melatonin in their skin) of how great our lifestyle is. Let people choose to be passionate in something and they will own it. That being said, I think that hunting workshops in urban areas are a cool idea as long as it’s not patronizing.


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Agreed on this. I listened to the entire podcast and Steve's guest seemed to contradict herself several times- first, she said "It's not enough to just be colorblind," but then later said she was felt uncomfortable when people act overly welcoming to minorities in the outdoors. I just don't understand what people have against treating everyone the same way?

 

[4Cody4]

At the very least that podcast got a group of outdoorsmen talking about the topic of race and outdoor activities. So in that regard I think it probably was a success, could probably take the topic further in the future as well.

 

[Carpenterant]

Ya it really got me thinking that Americans focus on race too much. I’ve never thought about any of things they brought up but kept thinking these people all think about race a lot