New world record archery bull

[gbflyer]

Legal take. 99.9% of you would do the same. Good for him. Dandy bull.

 

[dirtshooter]

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How did he type all that with both his hands wrapped around Casey's junk?

 

[Hnthrdr]

Same, same! I think the goal for most of us is to hunt those types of tags. Whether he’s made a bunch, or given a bunch, as an elk hunter he’s maximized it in my opinion. I’ve also never heard someone talk poorly about him that actually knows him. That goes a long ways today in my book.

For sure. I’m with ya. Just don’t want a bunch of young bucks to try farming and then wonder why they are broke as hell and not hunting gov tags every year haha

I will say I think 99% of us here, self righteous or not would dump that bull, especially if it was all legal, I do think maybe with the surrounding circumstances you just hang it on the wall and show your buddies… I mean when you have it all. I don’t know if you need to put it out there

 

[Quicksilver]

I'm not even necessarily saying it's wrong in a moral sense, I'm saying it shouldn't be celebrated. When I see 86 monster bulls to a guys credit I think some rich dude probably needs to reprioritize some things in life, that is not what North American hunting is about, and is much closer to the attitude of the early Western hunters of the late 1800's who damn near killed everything out. People who make a living hunting all over the country and killing way more animals than they and their families could ever eat in a year are engaged in commercial hunting plain and simple and are antithetical to the North American Model.

I don’t disagree with that. I know personally I don’t like to hunt if last years meat isn’t about finished. Hunting just to give it away I think defeats the purpose.

that’s why it’s surprising it’s WA. You don’t have very many quality animals. Big elk every now and then but other than that…meh.

Yeah but have you seen our forky population for bucks? World class

 

[AG8]

Wow, since the guy is just such a nice guy, loves to hunt and has great passion, a suburban bull shot over bait should count as a WR

Great bull, I think everyone here would shoot it if given the opportunity, no doubt about that. But it shouldn’t be recognized as the WR IMO. Would anybody recognize a bass caught out of a tank at Bass Pro as a state or world record?

Well the tank would be high fence/game farm. This would be more like the duck pond at the neighborhood park.

 

[Axlrod]

if someone has shot 10+ 400” bulls you are not playing by normal diy public land rules. You are paying to play, better access and animals than most.

No hate, just the way it is. If it was a legal bull on legal tag good for him. He’ll get the record, but should at least get the conversation about the asterisk the same way Barry Bonds did.

As an aside, no one just gets into farming and makes it anymore. You have old money, old land or enough new money. it’s how it is.

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[Traveler]

Whole lotta legal marijuana farmers say you are wrong!

Haha, maybe I’m not up on that business. But to riff on another thread that doesn’t count as “farming” it’s “growing” because I don’t think the say they “harvest” that crop …

 

[Jethro]

Who is Jay Scott? What a goofy message. What kind of grown man (I'm assuming he's grown) spends any time concerned over who is the best elk hunter?

I never heard of Casey before this thread either. The shot over bait does not impress me. Not from someone as accomplished as he apparently is. JMO,

 

[Pacific_Fork]

Who is Jay Scott? What a goofy message. What kind of grown man (I'm assuming he's grown) spends any time concerned over who is the best elk hunter?

I never heard of Casey before this thread either. The shot over bait does not impress me. Not from someone as accomplished as he apparently is. JMO,

Bingo!

 

[BBob]

I do know that 70% of ups shares are still held by Casey family and employees.

Absolutely false and so easily debunked.

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[Flyjunky]

Same, same! I think the goal for most of us is to hunt those types of tags. Whether he’s made a bunch, or given a bunch, as an elk hunter he’s maximized it in my opinion. I’ve also never heard someone talk poorly about him that actually knows him. That goes a long ways today in my book.

The other thing that gets me is how many people had never heard of this guy before this thread. With that many elk killed and the size of elk, you’d think we would be way more of a “hunter household” name. That’s pretty cool to me in todays world of insta-famous hunters.

 

[robertpaulsen]

What an amazing bull, it is a little bit of a bummer finding out he lived in a subdivision and was a paparazzi ungulate. Expected and normal in Utah, but not so much anywhere else.

 

[rodney482]

The other thing that gets me is how many people had never heard of this guy before this thread. With that many elk killed and the size of elk, you’d think we would be way more of a “hunter household” name. That’s pretty cool to me in todays world of insta-famous hunters.

With most of his elk coming off tribal grounds and being heavily guided…. I doubt anyone wants to read about it in EBJ. Seems pretty common when there is large amounts of cash spent to pursue that there isnt much of a story to go with it.

 

[BBob]

What an amazing bull, it is a little bit of a bummer finding out he lived in a subdivision and was a paparazzi ungulate. Expected and normal in Utah, but not so much anywhere else.

But the bull likely didn’t live full time in that subdivision. We have not been given any details at all if he was hunted in the woods on public earlier in the hunt. It’s assumed so but we need to hear the rest of the story. But no the internet has blown it completely off the rails and turned it into a witch hunt. The guy has been around forever and has been spoken of highly for just as long but now he’s thrown under the internet bus.

 

[robertpaulsen]

But the bull likely didn’t live full time in that subdivision. We have not been given any details at all if he was hunted in the woods on public earlier in the hunt. It’s assumed so but we need to hear the rest of the story. But no the internet has blown it completely off the rails and turned it into a witch hunt. The guy has been around forever and has been spoken of highly for just as long but now he’s thrown under the Internet bus.

Not sure if it matters at this point if he lived there full time. It’s obvious based what is out there it was killed in that area. Bummer. It was fun to think that possibly a bull as big as such lived without having a name except for the select few hunting him. Such is not the case.

Just another big animal where the story of the hunt is tainted. Bummer.

 

[Flyjunky]

With most of his elk coming off tribal grounds and being heavily guided…. I doubt anyone wants to read about it in EBJ. Seems pretty common when there is large amounts of cash spent to pursue that there isnt much of a story to go with it.

Totally agree, but where are all the pics floating around social media? Look at any “influencer” or wannabe hunter the last 15 years, they kill a raghorn and it’s posted all over the place. This guy has that many kills of huge bulls and his name is relatively unknown?

 

[canyonhunter47]

Amazing bull but it would’ve been way more interesting from a blue collar guy scouting him on time off and weekends and killing him by calling him in or stalking him on a lucky tag draw. Coming from a trust fund guy with all the time and resources in the world and over a bucket of corn or whatever, it’s just not as interesting.

To be fair, I don’t blame him for using all the resources he has and I respect that he is not publicizing it like crazy (that I have seen). Plus this story is 1000x better than the Jimmy John’s debacle bull

 

[BBob]

With most of his elk coming off tribal grounds and being heavily guided….

Who has said how many of his bulls came from rez hunts? I think the majority of his kills are off rez bulls. He’s no dummy and doesn’t need a guide to handhold him to kill bulls. His reputation as an elk hunter with good to great abilities has been around for a long time.

I’m not trying to condone what may have happened on this particular hunt or what the guy might have done but the internet just loves to go to town with speculation before all facts are in.

 

[dirtytough]

I read the story from I believe his son. Someone with the same last name. I don’t remember it exactly but it sounded like he hunted that bull everyday. It sounded like he was grinding it out. It was a fairly long winded post. Interesting that he left the part out of it living in town. It would be a grind waiting 161 days for an animal to slip up and leave private you don’t have access to. Looks like it got to enjoy the holiday with lights and everything though.

Definitely a giant bull. Too bad his son made a post on SM about it.

 

[atmat]

@WRO — do you know the guy? It seems like you’re defending him quite passionately. So I’m just curious.

FWIW, I think it’s a dandy bull and would gladly kill in my neighborhood. I wouldn’t go bragging about it being a world class bull or a ton of effort, though.

Also I echo that a trust fund dude killing 80+ bulls (with lots >400”) doesn’t tickle my fancy much.