New Weatherby Cartridge

[ReaptheHeat]

Not when they are intended to use different bullets, twist rates, barrel lengths, actions, etc. A person wanting to sling the 133 berger or 134 eldm isn't going to see easy success with the current 10 twist factory offerings.

True but why would you want the old school 257 when you can go modern?

It's like saying 7 PRC won't eat into 7 mag sales

 

[wind gypsy]

True but why would you want the old school 257 when you can go modern?

'cuz speed kills!

This is from JD338 at the Nosler forum. The case has been shortened, my guess it's going to be a 247 RPM
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Oooh. I likey. Might be SAUM'ish capacity and fit nice in a tikka LA.

And it doesn't have basically the same capacity as a 257 wby.

 

[ReaptheHeat]

'cuz speed kills!




Oooh. I likey. Might be SAUM'ish capacity and fit nice in a tikka LA.

And it doesn't have basically the same capacity as a 257 wby.

Both wrong.

Awaiting 22 RPM with 77 TMK

 

[gerry35]

'cuz speed kills!




Oooh. I likey. Might be SAUM'ish capacity and fit nice in a tikka LA.

And it doesn't have basically the same capacity as a 257 wby.

Looks like that's what they are doing, giving lots of room to load out bullets in a standard action.

 

[wind gypsy]

Looks like that's what they are doing, giving lots of room to load out bullets in a standard action.

Could be a nasty little sucker. Low 70s grain H20 capacity with a 130 class 25 cal would be a slippery SOB with pretty moderate recoil and not as obscenely overbore - fit in standard long actions. Sounds like a winner to me.

Would be pretty similar recoil to 270win/6.5 PRC but should outperform both in drop/drift.

 

[Timjohnson11]

Perhaps a one off somebody whipped up but nontheless, a quick google search of Weatherby 257 RPM came back with the below reamer recently listed on PTG and avaialble for 'backorder'.

 

[AZ_Hunter]

I hope it’s a 257RPM and a 1-7 twist, hence Jan 7 (1-7) release… I have a tikka action laying around with a nitrided fluted std bolt… been waiting/debating what to do with it.

 

[wind gypsy]

Perhaps a one off somebody whipped up but nontheless, a quick google search of Weatherby 257 RPM came back with the below reamer recently listed on PTG and avaialble for 'backorder'.

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Shorter shoulder than the 6.5 and 338 too..

 

[HighUintas]

Missed. The. Mark. 6rpm would have been a seller. 25 is a weird no man's land, although I know some people like them. I guess that's why wby did it! Maybe it's only a matter of time before they then do a 6.

 

[wind gypsy]

Missed. The. Mark. 6rpm would have been a seller. 25 is a weird no man's land, although I know some people like them. I guess that's why wby did it! Maybe it's only a matter of time before they then do a 6.

Assume weatherby knows their customer base and how many may not see a 6mm as adequate for big game. "That new 25 RPM sounds like a great deer and antelope rifle Bob." If anything, what this appears to be would be a more attractive alternative to 6.5 RPM IMO and be more attractive to folks wanting to build on other platforms (like tikka) where the 6.5 gets a little long in COAL.

257 isn't really in no-mans land IMO. It does what 6.5 does with less recoil.

 

[tipsntails7]

will probably be an RPM variant in 25,6,22 but I am hoping 22-300 just for laughs.

 

[tstowater]

Got a 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum. Fast and flat shooting. Absolutely overbore. No need to dial until you get out there quite aways. Do I need another Weatherby? Probably not, although I have thought it would be fun to have a 257 Weatherby Magnum.

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

Nothing wrong with the .257 Wby......I have one. I own a .300 Wby too. I only shoot my reloads, so I don't have to pay their price for ammo.

 

[gerry35]

Missed. The. Mark. 6rpm would have been a seller. 25 is a weird no man's land, although I know some people like them. I guess that's why wby did it! Maybe it's only a matter of time before they then do a 6.

They are offering their 240 Wby with a 1 in 7.5 twist (and also the 243 as well) can't see them offering another 6mm but theres lots of room for a more powerful 257 round.

 

[Jon C]

I've been looking at getting a 257 weatherby in the Backcountry ti action but the 9 lug seems overkill for the rifle. The 25 rpm would be sweet in their back country package

This also seems like it would kill 257 weatherby sales imo.

Guessing they are more concerned with the 25 creed stealing 257 sales.

 

[wind gypsy]

Guessing they are more concerned with the 25 creed stealing 257 sales.

They are not remotely in the same category though. 51 gr h20 case capacity and a 7.5 twist vs 84 gr case capacity and a 10 twist.

This looks like it'd be closer to a fast twist 25-06 AI but shorter.

 

[Jon C]

They are not remotely in the same category though. 51 gr h20 case capacity and a 7.5 twist vs 84 gr case capacity and a 10 twist.

This looks like it'd be closer to a fast twist 25-06 AI but shorter.

Both modern fast twist without belts I’m guessing. And the 257 Weatherby has competition with 25/06.

 

[z987k]

weatherby would be smart to shorten the case a little to make it fit in more rifles (tikka) but I doubt it.

All the RPMs fit just fine in a tikka action. Unlike the old weatherby cartridges. You might even say this is peak tikka action performance using the lengthened 284 win as a parent.

Ha ha, yeah that’s why I said the only halfway decent thing. It’s really about the only move they could have made to try and be competitive in the marketplace. Tikka is the only other action platform that has taken off in decades, so tapping into the 700 world as objectively a good move in my eyes, even though the execution is poor.

Some day manufacturers will start offering 20” and shorter barrels.

If you look, they do chamber the rpm's in 20 in barrels.

Compared to re-badging a howa or pretending people need some big 9 lug action with stiff bolt lift for a hunting rifle the 307 seems like a pretty sensical choice to at least keep up with the joneses.

IMO the best thing theyve done is move forward with the peak 44 stock shapes vs making everything with a giant drop at heel and monte carlo cheek.

I cannot figure out why they still offer those terrible stocks.

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

Missed. The. Mark. 6rpm would have been a seller. 25 is a weird no man's land, although I know some people like them. I guess that's why wby did it! Maybe it's only a matter of time before they then do a 6.

I have been shooting .25 caliber (25-06 & .257 Wby) for over 60 years. I have killed everything from elk on down with them. I have killed over 100 deer with my .25's too. Weird you say.....?

 

[eLightfoot]

All the RPMs fit just fine in a tikka action. Unlike the old weatherby cartridges. You might even say this is peak tikka action performance using the lengthened 284 win as a parent.

If you look, they do chamber the rpm's in 20 in barrels.

I cannot figure out why they still offer those

Well yea if you want to squash the bullet way down below the neck