New TMK announced

[43.6N]

Anyone shoot the 88’s? I have a 1:8 twist 22 creedmoor. I wonder if they will shoot

Waiting on mine to arrive
I’ve got H4350, N555, and H1000 ready to go.

Also about 1/4lb of staball 65.

 

[Nine Banger]

Here's some info from 88ELD:

88gr bullets: PVA Barrel 2.700 hit lands…loading 2.680

"OK Powder" N565…41.5gr N565 at 2.680 is 2750fps…42.5 did not find pressure but nearly full

H1000…42-43gr will make quick drop at 2725fps summer weather

Got some loaded ammo from member, took it apart...2.600 39.3gr H4350 3036fps Petersen brass

88ELDM 39.5 gr of H4350, COAL of 2.625” In 18” barrel 3050 fps.


Tried Lever...38 grains Leverevolution, 88 eldm, 2.7 oal...can't find speed, didn't pursue it.


88ELD @ 2.660 39gr H4350...3000fps on 18"

 

[Tail_Hunter]

Anyone know the length of the plastic tip on the 88TMK? I'm using the JBM stability calculator to see if these will hit 1.5 for my 16" 22CM.

 

[huntnful]

View attachment 1032252Interesting to see how much larger that meplat is on the 153 once it loses the tip vs the eldm. Can’t wait to put it to good use.

Damn that 153 TMK is a big fat bastard lol. It’s for sure going to shoot slower than the 156 and with a .026 lower G7. Not sure if that one is super appealing considering the consistent wounds the 156’s are producing.

Any insights in the 7mm 185’s. Haven’t seen BC info on those yet.

 

[Escalante11]

Damn that 153 TMK is a big fat bastard lol. It’s for sure going to shoot slower than the 156 and with a .026 lower G7. Not sure if that one is super appealing considering the consistent wounds the 156’s are producing.

Any insights in the 7mm 185’s. Haven’t seen BC info on those yet.

Good points. Been running the 156 and 108 (Elite Hunter) Bergers with devestating results. My excitement for the 153 and 107 TMK has faded a bit. Those two specific Berger variants are hard not to love, they shoot so well and fast, and have been 100% consistent for me.

 

[Schmo]

Not sure if that one is super appealing considering the consistent wounds the 156’s are producing.

I think there would be some merit tho for a cheaper bullet, and a polymer tip, thus never having to worry about a hollow point being deformed or clogged?

 

[43.6N]

Damn that 153 TMK is a big fat bastard lol. It’s for sure going to shoot slower than the 156 and with a .026 lower G7. Not sure if that one is super appealing considering the consistent wounds the 156’s are producing.

Any insights in the 7mm 185’s. Haven’t seen BC info on those yet.

How slow would you feel ok impacting an animal with the 156eol?

No data yet obviously, but the TMK might buy you an extra 2-300 of reliable expansion. Even if it starts slower with a marginally worse overall bc.

 

[huntnful]

How slow would you feel ok impacting an animal with the 156eol?

No data yet obviously, but the TMK might buy you an extra 2-300 of reliable expansion. Even if it starts slower with a marginally worse overall bc.

Great points there. I haven’t killed any animals at a minimum velocity threshold for any bullet to speak to how low I’d be willing to shoot them. I have zero first hand experience with any impacts on animals below 2000 fps with Berger’s. At 2000fps my limited experience says it’s still doing good damage. So I just use that as my baseline.

So my setup gets me to 1100 yards with a 2,000fps impact with a 156 Berger and I don’t have any intentions to shoot further than that at animals. So I’m definitely not the best person to answer your questions here unfortunately.

Someone starting with a much lower MV may see benefits from the TMK as I did run the numbers and with it starting 50FPS slower than the Berger, it’s still only trailing by 100fps at 1100 yards.

 

[huntnful]

Good points. Been running the 156 and 108 (Elite Hunter) Bergers with devestating results. My excitement for the 153 and 107 TMK has faded a bit. Those two specific Berger variants are hard not to love, they shoot so well and fast, and have been 100% consistent for me.

Agreed for sure. I don’t think I’ll pull the trigger on the 153’s personally. But am looking forward to seeing what they did with the 7mm 185’s.

 

[43.6N]

Agreed for sure. I don’t think I’ll pull the trigger on the 153’s personally. But am looking forward to seeing what they did with the 7mm 185’s.

Agree. And I hope it wasn’t coming across like I was calling you out.
I’m eager to see the TMK field reports from bear season this year.

 

[huntnful]

Agree. And I hope it wasn’t coming across like I was calling you out.
I’m eager to see the TMK field reports from bear season this year.

Oh no I didn’t take it that way all!!

It’s pretty hard to personally get a vast amount of legit bottom end terminal performance on bullets. So I feel like it’s good to touch base about what others are seeing and feel comfortable with, from what they’ve seen as well.

 

[43.6N]

Oh no I didn’t take it that way all!!

It’s pretty hard to personally get a vast amount of legit bottom end terminal performance on bullets. So I feel like it’s good to touch base about what others are seeing and feel comfortable with, from what they’ve seen as well.

True that

 

[Jgormond3]

Anyone know the length of the plastic tip on the 88TMK? I'm using the JBM stability calculator to see if these will hit 1.5 for my 16" 22CM.

I am getting 0.1250”

 

[Schmo]

Anyone know the length of the plastic tip on the 88TMK? I'm using the JBM stability calculator to see if these will hit 1.5 for my 16" 22CM.

It’s my understanding that you don’t count a tip in the length. Maybe I’m wrong?

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

It’s my understanding that you don’t count a tip in the length. Maybe I’m wrong?

Bro, come on

 

[Q_Sertorius]

If I respond to that, I’ll get banned.

 

[Bowfinn]

Oh no I didn’t take it that way all!!

It’s pretty hard to personally get a vast amount of legit bottom end terminal performance on bullets. So I feel like it’s good to touch base about what others are seeing and feel comfortable with, from what they’ve seen as well.

I’ve seen your rifle builds, you’re unable to get low impact experience because 1800fps is usually 1500+ yards.

 

[huntnful]

I’ve seen your rifle builds, you’re unable to get low impact experience because 1800fps is usually 1500+ yards.

Correct

 

[jonnyviceroy]

Damn that 153 TMK is a big fat bastard lol. It’s for sure going to shoot slower than the 156 and with a .026 lower G7. Not sure if that one is super appealing considering the consistent wounds the 156’s are producing.

Any insights in the 7mm 185’s. Haven’t seen BC info on those yet.

Yes it is haha. I’m sure it’ll make some ridiculous wounds but I hear you. I have a good bunch of the 156 I’ve loved.
I haven’t seen a specific bc for those yet either but I imagine it’ll be a similar relationship to the higher BC 7mm Bergers as well.
I was less interested in the 185 just because I’m sitting on a big ol pile of 195s I was planning to use in my 7–300 PRC. I will be very curious to see results however.