I co-developed this system with Aron Snyder. We both felt strongly that there was a need for an improved system for micro diameter arrows. Here are some more details:
Iron Will’s new Snyder Core System utilizes a long hardened metal core, carbon fiber (arrow), and a hardened metal Impact Collar to provide unmatched arrow connection strength and alignment over outserts or half-outs.
This hybrid system can be used as a glue-in or screw-in. The broadhead can be glued directly into the arrow with or without a HIT insert attached to it. You can also use our new installation tool to install the HIT to the correct depth and use this as a screw-in system.
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Not crazy........just questioned the "need" for all that. Personally, I have never blown out the tip on a .204" arrow with HIT from shooting an animal (heavy bone or otherwise).......and even after blowing through grouse and into rocks. And I've rarely heard of anyone else doing that either. I even buried a judo head 3" into an aspen tree after passing through a grouse. I had to dig and cut it out, but the arrow came out unscathed.Everyone thought I was crazy in the other thread.
This system is for 4mm, .165/.166 ID arrows. These are generally called micros, but I agree, some companies use the terms small and micro to describe either .204 or .166. I call .204 small and .166 micro.That's great! Thanks, Bill. Would you mind clarifying for us, please, what you mean numerically by micro diameter arrows since arrow manufacturers have different naming conventions?
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We just added two Impact Collar sizes to our website. Our new G size will work with the .228 OD arrow.Look AWESOME.. Been waiting for theses. Now make a some collars in .221 for the 400s or .228 for the 350s Please. For Black Eagle X-Impacts.
Thanks! That's what I thought you meant. Just wanted to be sure.This system is for 4mm, .165/.166 ID arrows. These are generally called micros, but I agree, some companies use the terms small and micro to describe either .204 or .166. I call .204 small and .166 micro.
Thanks Bill, that's going to cost me.We just added two Impact Collar sizes to our website. Our new G size will work with the .228 OD arrow.
We have two collar sizes. Our 25 grain hardened steel collar is 1.00 inch long and our 10 grain titanium is 0.70 inches long, so neither one overlaps the HIT insert with this system. I've found with the HIT this far back and connected to the long broadhead shank, it acts like one solid long core and really strengthens the end of the arrow a long ways back.Will all the collars be running to the threads of the broadheads like in the picture? Or will they lap past and go over the insert?
Thanks for chiming in Bill.
We have two collar sizes. Our 25 grain hardened steel collar is 1.00 inch long and our 10 grain titanium is 0.70 inches long, so neither one overlaps the HIT insert with this system. I've found with the HIT this far back and connected to the long broadhead shank, it acts like one solid long core and really strengthens the end of the arrow a long ways back.
I am curious as well on the spine and arrow length. Basically how will I figure out what up front weight system I need since the insert system will be so long?!?Have you checked to see how these affect arrow spine, I would imagine it would be similar to shooting a 3" shorter arrow when all said and done. I'm using your 100gr HIT and feel like I could have definitely gotten away with a softer spine with the long inserts.
I really wish these would have been on the market a couple of years ago prior to me moving away from 4mm arrows. Now you just need to develop a bullet-proof expandable head to go with your system!!
Aaron said that it didn't change the spine for him, he commented that on his youtube video, maybe he touches more on that in the podcast as well?
i have been somewhat a "hater" of .165/66 shafts, due to the component system, i'm pretty excited about this system. i'm all dialed in with .204's this year with my compound and recurve, but when the dust settles after this fall, i'm getting some of these.... i like it!I co-developed this system with Aron Snyder. We both felt strongly that there was a need for an improved system for micro diameter arrows. Here are some more details:
Iron Will’s new Snyder Core System utilizes a long hardened metal core, carbon fiber (arrow), and a hardened metal Impact Collar to provide unmatched arrow connection strength and alignment over outserts or half-outs.
This hybrid system can be used as a glue-in or screw-in. The broadhead can be glued directly into the arrow with or without a HIT insert attached to it. You can also use our new installation tool to install the HIT to the correct depth and use this as a screw-in system.
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Have you checked to see how these affect arrow spine, I would imagine it would be similar to shooting a 3" shorter arrow when all said and done. I'm using your 100gr HIT and feel like I could have definitely gotten away with a softer spine with the long inserts.