new FL camo pattern ?

[RyanWillis]

I got this email in response from First Lite about Cipher last week:

Thank you for reaching out. Cipher unfortunately has been discontinued. Our product development team felt that some significant improvements could be made therein. Typical to the way we like to operate here at First Lite, if we can improve on an existing product/camouflage colorway we will not hesitate. We demand the utmost performance out of all of our products from the gear itself to the camouflage printed on our products and the way in which your quarry views it. For this reason we felt it was necessary to discontinue Cipher pending the release of our new Cerca camouflage colorway! We no longer have any Cipher available for sale. Please view the link below to reference our new Cerca colorway!

BUT today I saw this on Scheels.com:

CIPHER™​

SCHEELS EXCLUSIVE PATTERN​

First Lite's Cipher pattern leverages the proven working principals of Fusion and applies them to landscape palettes with less color. Cipher emphasizes the narrower color spectrum found during the autumn and winter months in both hardwood and western environments. With its muted coloration and Fusion-inspired DNA, Cipher is a deadly weapon in every hunter's arsenal.

All Cipher items do say “Pre-order now to reserve your gear with an estimated ship date of 12/8/2023”
So maybe our complaints about Cipher leaving were heard and they’re bringing it back in a way that is good for them and Scheels.

 

[LongWayAround]

Cipher is/was a great pattern, I don't see how it needs "improving." Hopefully, Cerca looks better than what was posted here.

Fusion is ok. Spectre is too busy. Cache is wtf. I also don't dig their cattail pattern.

Typical of most of these proprietary patterns is they don't know when to stop "innovating."

On the other hand, you have Forloh who found the fugliest pattern possible and said "good enough."

 

[Split toe]

Is this a new pattern/jacket?

 

[Jake_B]

https://www.firstlite.com/pages/first-lite-cerca.html

 

[Durran87]

It currently looks like just as cipher disappeared from the FL website, now it’s the main pattern for everything available at Scheels starting 12/9. I sure hope it sticks around!

 

[Fowl Play]

So wait... you can still buy First Lite clothing in Cipher... just only through Scheels??? WTF

Men's First Lite Furnace Hoody

Warm, breathable, and the ultimate in comfort, the Furnace 350 Hoody delivers a mid-to-late season option that can be worn during higher exe SCHEELS

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[Desk Jockey]

Cerca reminds me a bit of old school Asat Tan.

 

[RyanWillis]

I got this email in response from First Lite about Cipher last week:

Thank you for reaching out. Cipher unfortunately has been discontinued. Our product development team felt that some significant improvements could be made therein. Typical to the way we like to operate here at First Lite, if we can improve on an existing product/camouflage colorway we will not hesitate. We demand the utmost performance out of all of our products from the gear itself to the camouflage printed on our products and the way in which your quarry views it. For this reason we felt it was necessary to discontinue Cipher pending the release of our new Cerca camouflage colorway! We no longer have any Cipher available for sale. Please view the link below to reference our new Cerca colorway!

BUT today I saw this on Scheels.com:

CIPHER​

SCHEELS EXCLUSIVE PATTERN​

First Lite's Cipher pattern leverages the proven working principals of Fusion and applies them to landscape palettes with less color. Cipher emphasizes the narrower color spectrum found during the autumn and winter months in both hardwood and western environments. With its muted coloration and Fusion-inspired DNA, Cipher is a deadly weapon in every hunter's arsenal.

All Cipher items do say “Pre-order now to reserve your gear with an estimated ship date of 12/8/2023”
So maybe our complaints about Cipher leaving were heard and they’re bringing it back in a way that is good for them and Scheels.

Yes we discussed it.


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[TK161BOONER]

Found some pictures of the new pattern…
What do you guy’s think as an eastern-midwest Treestand camo?

 

[Split toe]

Found some pictures of the new pattern…
What do you guy’s think as an eastern-midwest Treestand camo?

Reminds me of Natural Gear camo a little.

 

[muzzypower]

I liked cipher originally but found i really got picked off in it for whatever reason. Fusion seems to work better for me. Not really into FL anymore but cerca has me wondering if this could be used well as snow camo??

 

[Lowg08]

I’m not a fan of the new camo. Just me though. I have mostly solids. A fusion top and my son has a fusion and cipher top. I’ve gone mostly solids. Of course. This doesn’t matter because it’s all base or mid layers I have.

 

[Crahnx]

Some pictures it looks almost white, others a more brownish/tan tone. In the more brownish/tan ones, it sort of reminds me of Backland All Terrain, which I’d argue is one of the best camo patterns ever made.

 

[itsgobe]

That’s unfortunate. I actually liked Cipher for Arizona desert.

 

[goathunter]

Just quit playing around and bring back ASAT! Sitka too!