New developments coming this summer

[Cmack0102]

I’ve read through this multiple times, and I hope I’m not asking a question that has already been answered.

I’m trying to get a good idea on pant sizing. I reached out through the OV website wondering if I could base the fit on the size guide for the Satu pant. They essentially said it would have its own size guide when it’s released.

I want to make sure I get pants that fit on the preorder, but I don’t want to order 2 sizes and take a pair from someone else who could have gotten them early in hunting season.

Would it be possible to post a size guide with measurements (and where to measure) like you have for the Satu?

Specifically for me, a 34 short in the attack fits pretty well, and has room for long underwear when needed. 32/30 in the Prana pants is too tight, and 34/30 is loose, but will stay up with the belt cinched. I was never able to try on the 33/30 in a Prana, but I imagine it would be perfect.

My guess is that a 33/30 in these will be great for me, but if anyone who has tested them can give us some insight on sizing compared to Prana stretch Zion, I’m sure it would help more than just me when it comes time for the preorder.

Thanks in advance!

 

[yeky83]

I’ve read through this multiple times, and I hope I’m not asking a question that has already been answered.

I’m trying to get a good idea on pant sizing. I reached out through the OV website wondering if I could base the fit on the size guide for the Satu pant. They essentially said it would have its own size guide when it’s released.

I want to make sure I get pants that fit on the preorder, but I don’t want to order 2 sizes and take a pair from someone else who could have gotten them early in hunting season.

Would it be possible to post a size guide with measurements (and where to measure) like you have for the Satu?

Specifically for me, a 34 short in the attack fits pretty well, and has room for long underwear when needed. 32/30 in the Prana pants is too tight, and 34/30 is loose, but will stay up with the belt cinched. I was never able to try on the 33/30 in a Prana, but I imagine it would be perfect.

My guess is that a 33/30 in these will be great for me, but if anyone who has tested them can give us some insight on sizing compared to Prana stretch Zion, I’m sure it would help more than just me when it comes time for the preorder.

Thanks in advance!

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Jul 9, 2025

Hi @Brigham @ Outdoor Vitals, thanks for the info. I listened to the recently released episode with Steve and Mark. I own 11 OV pieces, including the Satu pants, and have had mostly good experiences. I'm looking forward to the new line.

A couple questions on the Altura pants. The Satu pants fit me like skinny jeans in the calf and thigh, even though the waist is my size and fits loose. It's my one true gripe about them. How will the calf and thigh sizing of the Altura compare to the Satu?

Second, from my understanding the biggest blood vessels in the leg run on the inner side...

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[Brigham @ Outdoor Vitals]

I’ve read through this multiple times, and I hope I’m not asking a question that has already been answered.

I’m trying to get a good idea on pant sizing. I reached out through the OV website wondering if I could base the fit on the size guide for the Satu pant. They essentially said it would have its own size guide when it’s released.

I want to make sure I get pants that fit on the preorder, but I don’t want to order 2 sizes and take a pair from someone else who could have gotten them early in hunting season.

Would it be possible to post a size guide with measurements (and where to measure) like you have for the Satu?

Specifically for me, a 34 short in the attack fits pretty well, and has room for long underwear when needed. 32/30 in the Prana pants is too tight, and 34/30 is loose, but will stay up with the belt cinched. I was never able to try on the 33/30 in a Prana, but I imagine it would be perfect.

My guess is that a 33/30 in these will be great for me, but if anyone who has tested them can give us some insight on sizing compared to Prana stretch Zion, I’m sure it would help more than just me when it comes time for the preorder.

Thanks in advance!

When ordering becomes available, there will be a sizing guide to help you make your decision. FYI, for waist sizing, from 32 to 36 there will be 1 inch size increments, so a 33" waist will be an option.

Your referenced the Satu pants. I am a size 33 waist straight down the middle. In the Satu pants I just don't wear them because they're only offered in 32 or 34, and I don't like how either size fits me. Also, as I've mentioned before, the fit of the Altura pants is very different than the Satu pants. Noticeably roomier from the hip to the hem. Also noticeably more stretchy.

Stay tuned, when the time comes, we'll have a sizing guide.

 

[Dgrant16]

When ordering becomes available, there will be a sizing guide to help you make your decision. FYI, for waist sizing, from 32 to 36 there will be 1 inch size increments, so a 33" waist will be an option.

Your referenced the Satu pants. I am a size 33 waist straight down the middle. In the Satu pants I just don't wear them because they're only offered in 32 or 34, and I don't like how either size fits me. Also, as I've mentioned before, the fit of the Altura pants is very different than the Satu pants. Noticeably roomier from the hip to the hem. Also noticeably more stretchy.

Stay tuned, when the time comes, we'll have a sizing guide.

Are we allowed to know the percentage of nylon to spandex? (assuming there is spandex)

 

[Brigham @ Outdoor Vitals]

Are we allowed to know the percentage of nylon to spandex? (assuming there is spandex)

Yes sir, nylon 93%, spandex 7%.

Finished weight for a size 32x32 is 13.1 oz.

 

[Dgrant16]

Yes sir, nylon 93%, spandex 7%.

Finished weight for a size 32x32 is 13.1 oz.I ! than

Yes sir, nylon 93%, spandex 7%.

Finished weight for a size 32x32 is 13.1 oz.

I like it! thank you!

 

[Brigham @ Outdoor Vitals]

Hey folks, just wanted to give some updates. In this case, not great news, but I care about being up front and keeping everyone in the loop. The Vantage Alpine jacket is further delayed, and production will not be finishing until late September and we don't anticipate being able to ship to customers until about the first week of October.

I mentioned earlier that the fabric used for this jacket is taking a lot longer to manufacture than expected. To give you an idea of what that means, I'll attempt to briefly explain.

There are a few ways to make a lightweight woven fabric down-proof. The most common method is called calendaring or cire. It essentially smash-seals one or both sides of fabric by rolling it through a machine that applies heat and pressure to seal off the small spaces between woven threads. Our fabric is made down-proof by applying a very tight weave that has to meet very tight tolerances in order to be down proof. We also have to make it this way because the fabric is two layers, so heat and pressure cannot be applied evenly to the inside and outside of the fabric. The space between the two layers becomes the down chamber. This weaving method also allows the fabric to have a matte appearance, versus the shiny appearance common in puffy jackets. This is a very slow process, and requires constant and tight inspection. This means that a significant percentage of the fabric does not meet quality standards in is not usable for a down jacket. So it is taking longer to weave the total amount of fabric we need for the jackets.

Sometimes we can find existing materials for our products that meet our needs, and sometimes we have to work with fabric mills to create new fabrics that are better suited to the end product. This is one of those cases.

This will not affect the timing of the pants or fleece hoodie. They are on track for September 1. Anyone who has signed up for the emails will be getting an email update about this.

I know it's disappointing news, but just wanted to be forthright with all of you. Luckily there is still of lot of hunting season from October on!

 

[deserthunter2016]

Hey folks, just wanted to give some updates. In this case, not great news, but I care about being up front and keeping everyone in the loop. The Vantage Alpine jacket is further delayed, and production will not be finishing until late September and we don't anticipate being able to ship to customers until about the first week of October.

I mentioned earlier that the fabric used for this jacket is taking a lot longer to manufacture than expected. To give you an idea of what that means, I'll attempt to briefly explain.

There are a few ways to make a lightweight woven fabric down-proof. The most common method is called calendaring or cire. It essentially smash-seals one or both sides of fabric by rolling it through a machine that applies heat and pressure to seal off the small spaces between woven threads. Our fabric is made down-proof by applying a very tight weave that has to meet very tight tolerances in order to be down proof. We also have to make it this way because the fabric is two layers, so heat and pressure cannot be applied evenly to the inside and outside of the fabric. The space between the two layers becomes the down chamber. This weaving method also allows the fabric to have a matte appearance, versus the shiny appearance common in puffy jackets. This is a very slow process, and requires constant and tight inspection. This means that a significant percentage of the fabric does not meet quality standards in is not usable for a down jacket. So it is taking longer to weave the total amount of fabric we need for the jackets.

Sometimes we can find existing materials for our products that meet our needs, and sometimes we have to work with fabric mills to create new fabrics that are better suited to the end product. This is one of those cases.

This will not affect the timing of the pants or fleece hoodie. They are on track for September 1. Anyone who has signed up for the emails will be getting an email update about this.

I know it's disappointing news, but just wanted to be forthright with all of you. Luckily there is still of lot of hunting season from October on!

Thanks for the update. Glad to hear a company is looking for quality versus just getting products out the door.

On the pants and fleece when you say September 1st, do you mean that is when they will be available to order? Or is that when they will ship?


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[Brusso89]

@Brigham @ Outdoor Vitals

Question on the pants belt- I seen in the pictures that there are normal belt loops and it looks like the internal belt goes in a sleeve behind the external belt loops. How easy will it be to permanently remove the included internal belt? Would I be able to just pull it through the sleeve or is it going to be stitched to the pant in that sleeve making it not so easy to remove? I'm in the camp of not wanting the included belt so if its easy to remove without damaging the pants, I'll be trying them out.

For the active hoodie- any chance you have a picture of the final products wrist cuffs with thumb holes you could share?

Thanks in advance for any and all info!

 

[Sean As Is]

Great questions here.

The Altura pants have noticeably more room in the thigh and calf than the Satu pants. As well as more stretch (4way) , and articulated knees. The Satu pants were meant to be a city/trail dual purpose pant which meant the fit is more city than mountain. The Altura pants are mountain specific pants so they don’t have the restrictions of city aesthetic influence.

Great question related to circulation and body temp regulation. Your line of thought is sound. As was mentioned, we feel like there is too much potential for rubbing and/or chaffing in the inner thigh area due to the extra bulk of zippers. Never really seen guys get chaffing on the outer thighs, so that’s why we do the vents on the outer thighs.

Thank you @Brigham @ Outdoor Vitals, sincerely appreciate the explanation! Also, thank you for the candor and forthrightness regarding the delays. I appreciate a company that is willing to call things the way they are and that stands for doing the job right. Personally, I'd rather have the right product available later than a messed up product rushed to market.

 

[Sean As Is]

A better look at the fit for you guys. The only selfie video I'm willing to shoot, so don't ask for more. Haha!

Thanks Mark! Appreciate the video. Good to see that OV has put a solid grab tab on the zipper. Wish they would have done so with the Ventus and Vario. I appreciate that you and Steve reached out to OV to start that collaboration. Two excellent companies with great people making great gear.

 

[Sean As Is]

Yeah the puffy pants are likely next year. We’re still dialing them in, with a big consideration being how warm / how heavy. It’s surprising how many guys I talk to that don’t use puffy pants, so one of our considerations is finding a good balance of warmth and weight because we want guys to actually use them and if they’re too warm and heavy they won’t make it in the pack. If they’re not warm enough they’re also not justified to make it into the pack. Right now they’re about 9-10 ounces.

FWIW, I use puffy pants. I might be an outlier, but I use my puffy layers to beef up the insulation value of my sleeping bag/quilt. And, I go winter backpacking and backcountry skiing in Colorado, so there are definitely multiple uses for puffy pants in my use cases. I'd be willing to have a little more weight on a puffy pant if it had a reinforced seat that resists tearing while seated. Possibly, reinforced knees as well, although I'm less fused about that. Some sort of waist belt or draw cord would be great. I have an old pair that only has velcro tabs, and it slides down a lot.

So, I'd vote for warmer, just my 2 cents.

 

[Brigham @ Outdoor Vitals]

Thanks for the update. Glad to hear a company is looking for quality versus just getting products out the door.

On the pants and fleece when you say September 1st, do you mean that is when they will be available to order? Or is that when they will ship?


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That's the date we're planning on going live, meaning they'll be on the website available for order, and in stock. So if you order that day, it means we have them in stock and they would ship within 1-2 days depending on how fast we can fulfill orders. We are still working on the preparations for a pre-order option, so that is still TBD.

 

[Brigham @ Outdoor Vitals]

@Brigham @ Outdoor Vitals

Question on the pants belt- I seen in the pictures that there are normal belt loops and it looks like the internal belt goes in a sleeve behind the external belt loops. How easy will it be to permanently remove the included internal belt? Would I be able to just pull it through the sleeve or is it going to be stitched to the pant in that sleeve making it not so easy to remove? I'm in the camp of not wanting the included belt so if its easy to remove without damaging the pants, I'll be trying them out.

For the active hoodie- any chance you have a picture of the final products wrist cuffs with thumb holes you could share?

Thanks in advance for any and all info!

The belt is stitched in at the end of the belt. Shown below is the box-x stitching. It would not be difficult to unstitch that with a seam ripper.

Here’s a picture of the sleeve cuff. We used thumb loops, not a thumb hole.