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My thoughts exactly. MSRpocket rocket and titanium. I even run a solo stove lite sometimes, don’t even need a fuel canister.My biggest issue with these systems is the inability to cook with them in a campfire. If I have a fire, I'm using it to cook to save fuel or slow simmer meals. I've also run out of fuel on several occasions. It's my number 1 reason I never switched to jet boil type stoves and stick with my titanium cook set. Anything that melts or burns doesn't make the cut. Boils water quickly, but doesn't have much functionality beyond that.
What if you hunt above treeline with nothing to burn to have a fire? And you have to carry it all the way there.My biggest issue with these systems is the inability to cook with them in a campfire. If I have a fire, I'm using it to cook to save fuel or slow simmer meals. I've also run out of fuel on several occasions. It's my number 1 reason I never switched to jet boil type stoves and stick with my titanium cook set. Anything that melts or burns doesn't make the cut. Boils water quickly, but doesn't have much functionality beyond that.
How are you getting 30-40 boils out of a 110 fuel canister?What if you hunt above treeline with nothing to burn to have a fire? And you have to carry it all the way there.
Pot with heat exchanger is the go for this.
I use a jetboil and get 3-4 boils a day for 10 days put of a 110gm canister.
That sounds considerably more than the 14-18 boils quoted earlier in this thread.
No stove and pot combo comes close to the efficiency of the jetboil that I know of.
For long duration trips the jetboil is the lightest system because you can carry so much less fuel
I agree; I also like to cook over an open fire at times instead of using my canister. It makes a mess of the pot, but it scrubs off.My biggest issue with these systems is the inability to cook with them in a campfire. If I have a fire, I'm using it to cook to save fuel or slow simmer meals. I've also run out of fuel on several occasions. It's my number 1 reason I never switched to jet boil type stoves and stick with my titanium cook set. Anything that melts or burns doesn't make the cut. Boils water quickly, but doesn't have much functionality beyond that.
Then I use my stove and fuel, and an extra can if necessary. The Soto Windmaster is very fuel efficient, but is still useless without fuel. I would consider a jetboil if I was exclusively eating freeze dried meals and had no wood to burn, but more often than not I'm in the woods hanging out and having a good time and will pack tasty food to cook. It's not worth it to change my cook system when mine works perfectly for me.What if you hunt above treeline with nothing to burn to have a fire? And you have to carry it all the way there.
Pot with heat exchanger is the go for this.
I use a jetboil and get 3-4 boils a day for 10 days put of a 110gm canister.
That sounds considerably more than the 14-18 boils quoted earlier in this thread.
No stove and pot combo comes close to the efficiency of the jetboil that I know of.
For long duration trips the jetboil is the lightest system because you can carry so much less fuel