New Backfire Lightweight Hunting Chassis?

[dårlig jeger]

It did seem like BF took some shots at the rokstok in his marketing video.

He featured the rokstok in his SHOT show recap years ago and was intrigued by the pad being above the bore.

In his chassis video he mentions his recoil pad geometry was above the bore for better shoot ability, but added that the folder was a solution for cleaning rods because it folded out of the way.

 

[bigsky_hunter]

What are thoughts on this chassis in comparison to some of the other ones on the market? I’ve no experience with a chassis but stumbled onto this one. Price is in Canadian bucks so not priced to bad. Not to derail thread, just thought it was an interesting comparison.

Lightweight Tikka Chassis — PRPrecision - tikka bottom metal

Ultralight Micro Folding Chassis for the Tikka T3

www.prprecisionrifles.com

 

[Q_Sertorius]

What are thoughts on this chassis in comparison to some of the other ones on the market? I’ve no experience with a chassis but stumbled onto this one. Price is in Canadian bucks so not priced to bad. Not to derail thread, just thought it was an interesting comparison.

Lightweight Tikka Chassis — PRPrecision - tikka bottom metal

Ultralight Micro Folding Chassis for the Tikka T3

www.prprecisionrifles.com

I can’t comment on that product specifically, but my interactions with that company have been great. I’ve purchased five different sets of bottom metal from them and the quality has always been outstanding.

 

[wind gypsy]

What are thoughts on this chassis in comparison to some of the other ones on the market? I’ve no experience with a chassis but stumbled onto this one. Price is in Canadian bucks so not priced to bad. Not to derail thread, just thought it was an interesting comparison.

Lightweight Tikka Chassis — PRPrecision - tikka bottom metal

Ultralight Micro Folding Chassis for the Tikka T3

www.prprecisionrifles.com

First glance - the cheek piece looks to be forward of where I’d actually make contact with it and the barely existent fore end is dumb.

 

[Mik123]

First glance - the cheek piece looks to be forward of where I’d actually make contact with it and the barely existent fore end is dumb.

I have one. The cheekpiece can be flipped around. No problems there.

 

[bigsky_hunter]

I have one. The cheekpiece can be flipped around. No problems.

What cartridge do you have in it? Balance, shootability, ergos etc…?

 

[Josh Boyd]

Please keep the thread on track. It's crazy how out in the weeds some of these get.

 

[HighUintas]

Please keep the thread on track. It's crazy how out in the weeds some of these get.

I get it, but it is a directly related competitor product and I think worth at least a little discussion until someone makes another thread on it. Maybe I'll do that if it doesn't exist. I think it's a really interesting chassis.

Here is one in case anyone is interested

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/pr-precision-tikka-micro-chassis.437781/

 

[swavescatter]

I get it, but it is a directly related competitor product and I think worth at least a little discussion until someone makes another thread on it. Maybe I'll do that if it doesn't exist. I think it's a really interesting chassis.

Here is one in case anyone is interested

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/pr-precision-tikka-micro-chassis.437781/

I think his comment was directed at people discussing Form's tax returns...

 

[HighUintas]

I think his comment was directed at people discussing Form's tax returns...

Maybe that was deleted... I never saw it but I am sure that would be interesting. Lots of deductions from Starbucks on "work trips".

 

[archer1416]

WTF is the deal with having a short ass fore end on the bottom and full length handguard above the barrel? Does he realize the support comes from below the barrel? Dumb!

The support comes from the "mini chassis" or on most stocks right around the recoil lug and back. If your barrel is free floated like it should be, nothing past that point is supporting anything. It only adds weight and one could make an argument for added rigidity overall but I doubt that is true either. The only thing the forend portion of a stock or chassis is for is to mount a bipod/tripod, and to have somewhere to grip or rest the rifle. He accomplishes the grip part by adding a carbon fiber hand guard of sorts.

 

[dasblanc]

I was a shit talker of backfire for a while. Jim seems to have grown with experience and I think he’s an asset to the hunting rifle industry/community now days.

What’s up with the area around the recoil lug on that thing though? Where does the front screw go?

I totally agree im not interested in all his content but have no problem with him or his channel. Im building a savage axis 280AI backpack rifle that does't have a budget for the previous 2 options so hell yes i'm listening.

 

[wind gypsy]

The support comes from the "mini chassis" or on most stocks right around the recoil lug and back. If your barrel is free floated like it should be, nothing past that point is supporting anything. It only adds weight and one could make an argument for added rigidity overall but I doubt that is true either. The only thing the forend portion of a stock or chassis is for is to mount a bipod/tripod, and to have somewhere to grip or rest the rifle. He accomplishes the grip part by adding a carbon fiber hand guard of sorts.

I'm not talking about how a stock holds an action. I'm talking about the fore end which exists to aid the shooter of the rifle in supporting the rifle while holding or shooting. It's fooking stupid to have a fore end that is longer above the barrel than where its magnitudes more useful - below the barrel unless it's already quite long. Nobody holds a gun up from a mirage shield/hand guard above the barrel.

2 things:
1. The closer front support is to trigger, the less stable it is. Bipod or front rest further forward = more stable.
2. If you have a bipod mounted on the fore end but find yourself in a shooting position where you're using a different front rest (pack, bag, tree, etc), a short fore end leaves you with very little smooth real estate to use on said rest.

 

[Leaf Litter]

The fore end ruins it for me. The rest of the chassis looks like it could be a winner, but the fore end appears to be designed exclusively to be mounted to a bi/tripod and thats just not the way I hunt. I like having a full fore end to shoot offhand or from limbs/packs/blowdowns/etc.

Most of my gripes about new stocks/chassis come from them adding too many steps/cuts/extensions/protrusions that, in a vacuum, make it better for individual tasks (tripod shooting), but as a whole just don't work for me for general purpose.

I also bought the Backstop recoil pad to compare to a MUCH cheaper Limbsaver pad, and it was a major disappointment.

 

[Speaks]

Yea I really like the idea of a folding stock for one of my rifles. I do hate that front end set up on this one though. Not that I have much interest in any of the other offerings out there right now either.

 

[Cherokeeguide]

Yawn.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[acidcypher]

Got my hands on one. It shoots pretty nice. There is some slight play in the folder, but it does lock closed, and has magnets to lock it in the folded position which are plenty strong to keep it in place while hiking. The front handgrip is an interesting choice, but overall I think it looks and shoots pretty nice.

Only 2 gripes, the thumb shelf is built into the chassis, so it is not adjustable. It's fine, but not exactly where I would have put it myself. And the magazine catch is not adjustable, mine is a little short and so my magazine sits a little low and it doesn't feed reliably, so I will need to do some tweeking on that.

Overall, I like it so far. Shoots well with low felt recoil. 7 PRC with Little bastard brake.

 

[Funzy0798]

Got my hands on one. It shoots pretty nice. There is some slight play in the folder, but it does lock closed, and has magnets to lock it in the folded position which are plenty strong to keep it in place while hiking. The front handgrip is an interesting choice, but overall I think it looks and shoots pretty nice.

Only 2 gripes, the thumb shelf is built into the chassis, so it is not adjustable. It's fine, but not exactly where I would have put it myself. And the magazine catch is not adjustable, mine is a little short and so my magazine sits a little low and it doesn't feed reliably, so I will need to do some tweeking on that.

Overall, I like it so far. Shoots well with low felt recoil. 7 PRC with Little bastard brake.

Is that a 3.560 or 3.715 length magazine? Looks long but could be the angle

Likely not 3.56 now that I'm seeing it's not a tikka

 

[acidcypher]

Is that a 3.560 or 3.715 length magazine? Looks long but could be the angle

Likely not 3.56 now that I'm seeing it's not a tikka

Its a CIP length 3.850" with a lone peak action.

They start selling the tikka model of the backlight tomorrow from the looks of it.

 

[bojangles808]

Got my hands on one. It shoots pretty nice. There is some slight play in the folder, but it does lock closed, and has magnets to lock it in the folded position which are plenty strong to keep it in place while hiking. The front handgrip is an interesting choice, but overall I think it looks and shoots pretty nice.

Only 2 gripes, the thumb shelf is built into the chassis, so it is not adjustable. It's fine, but not exactly where I would have put it myself. And the magazine catch is not adjustable, mine is a little short and so my magazine sits a little low and it doesn't feed reliably, so I will need to do some tweeking on that.

Overall, I like it so far. Shoots well with low felt recoil. 7 PRC with Little bastard brake.

did you weigh it before installing? sucks about the mag catch. a chassis that doesn't feed seems like a pretty big miss