New 1/2 ton truck

[SDHNTR]

I can confidently tell you, you are speaking with no knowledge of the current state of any manufacturer right now. Go look at the failure rate of GMs new v8 engines and they are not recalling them. They are only changing the oil to a different viscosity and they’re still blowing up. Chevrolets trans issues are also a huge problem with some parts being back ordered for 8 months. When it comes to the 10 speed trans from GM, Ford is using that same transmission with the same issues and no repairs that fix them correctly so far.

The new tundras do have engine issues, but they are also recalled regardless of if they fail or not. The amount of engines that have/will fail on all the new tundras sold is less than 2%. Toyota will also always take care of the customer. Doesn’t matter if it has recalls or not. When have you ever paid for a recall if you’re within the time and year interval? Never. And you never will with Toyota. Some recalls also never expire. Recalls also fix problems, not create problems, that’s how they should be looked at too. A repair that you don’t pay for.

Well, that’s an interesting take. Aside the from the engine, the problems I had on my 2024 Tundra were a mile long.

 

[jjordan355]

Well, that’s an interesting take. Aside the from the engine, the problems I had on my 2024 Tundra were a mile long.

I’m sure they were a mile long. They do have problems. But to define it as “unreliable” is ludicrous besides the engine issues which I mentioned and Toyota is proactively taking care of, GM is not. That’s what I was stating. GM is handling the engine failures on an “as needed” basis along with the transmission problems.

I’d like to know what you found “interesting” on my take. I didn’t obfuscate the problems the new tundras have, only stated that a recall doesn’t make them unreliable when Toyota is proactively taking care of it and providing the customer a vehicle to drive while the recall is performed. I can promise you I didn’t mis-state anything in the above post either. I’m deeply involved in the automotive industry for 10+ years at dealerships.

The new tundras definitely don’t meet the standard of the previous model, I do believe that. From fit and finish, tailgate opening problems, to road noise, but to compare to a previous model/generation isn’t quite fair either. The industry is driven by customer demands of more tech, accessories, amenities and creature comforts in every vehicle model across all makes, and if you dive into customer reviews or forums on every one of the above trucks mentioned you’re gonna find a few people raising a fuss about things they had problems with or found unsatisfactory. This has been the case since forever with humans.

 

[Legend]

Hopefully the Toyota engine problems have been resolved but time will tell - not sure I want to gamble. I will look into the F150 Tremor. Anybody liking the 3.0 Duramax? I am leaning that way for the mpg. However, this truck will be driven less than the other work truck (at least for another couple years) and may sit in the garage more often than not. To avoid diesel deposits I’ve heard you need to get these things out on the freeway and run them. There may be a better option. Ford seems to have the most engine options although I’ve never really been a Ford guy!

I really like the baby duramax in a 2024. Gentleman's driving it just idles eveywhere. And those silly mpg are real. At 80plus mph it gets 22. At 70mph it gets 27 plus. Great option imo.

 

[SDHNTR]

I’m sure they were a mile long. They do have problems. But to define it as “unreliable” is ludicrous besides the engine issues which I mentioned and Toyota is proactively taking care of, GM is not. That’s what I was stating. GM is handling the engine failures on an “as needed” basis along with the transmission problems.

I’d like to know what you found “interesting” on my take. I didn’t obfuscate the problems the new tundras have, only stated that a recall doesn’t make them unreliable when Toyota is proactively taking care of it and providing the customer a vehicle to drive while the recall is performed. I can promise you I didn’t mis-state anything in the above post either. I’m deeply involved in the automotive industry for 10+ years at dealerships.

The new tundras definitely don’t meet the standard of the previous model, I do believe that. From fit and finish, tailgate opening problems, to road noise, but to compare to a previous model/generation isn’t quite fair either. The industry is driven by customer demands of more tech, accessories, amenities and creature comforts in every vehicle model across all makes, and if you dive into customer reviews or forums on every one of the above trucks mentioned you’re gonna find a few people raising a fuss about things they had problems with or found unsatisfactory. This has been the case since forever with humans.

Toyota fought me on every one of the many warranty problems I had. Multiple dealers. Even on established TSB’s. I had to get corporate quality care involved on multiple occasions. In the end, I spend too much time in remote country. I can’t own a vehicle I can’t trust. Toyota’s willingness (which is still laughable to me), as per your perception, to issue a recall does not give me any comfort when miles into the backcountry. Life is too short, I sold the truck with less than 30k miles and took nearly a $40k loss on it. Resale on those 3rd gen’s is atrocious, for obvious reasons.

And I’ve been a dyed in the wool Toyota guy for 30+ years. They’ve jumped the shark.

 

[ADKHTR]

I was in the same situation during covid, my 2012 Tundra was beat to hell and wouldn’t die, but I needed something new, I got lucky and found a 2019 Tundra TRD with 30k miles, having owned a small business and several new trucks by all the manufacturers I won’t buy anything other than Toyota ever again, the reliability is undeniable, and I hope they get the bugs worked out on the new ones before it’s time for another.

 

[WyldGoose]

I was in a similar spot last year, needed a new truck with a bigger backseat for a car seat. Looking at 1/2 tons and wasn’t super thrilled about anything new. Ended up finding a 21 Tundra with 6k miles on it about 2 hours from home. Jumped on it.

 

[Whitefox82]

I was in a similar spot last year, needed a new truck with a bigger backseat for a car seat. Looking at 1/2 tons and wasn’t super thrilled about anything new. Ended up finding a 21 Tundra with 6k miles on it about 2 hours from home. Jumped on it.

That’s an incredible find right there!

 

[WyldGoose]

That’s an incredible find right there!

Bigtime. I just prefer the proven dependability. My previous truck(still have it) is an LBZ Duramax I put 300k miles on and never had an issue. Hoping for similar good times with the Tundra.

 

[SDHNTR]

The Gen 2 Tundras gently used and in nice shape cost more than they did when new for one reason alone… they are worth it!

 

[IdahoBeav]

Are they? For the same price you can buy a 3/4 ton gasser new off the lot- get legitimate payload, a full size bed, almost if not the same mpg, and avoid the mechanical problems the domestic half tons have a reputation for.

 

[Norcal18]

Another vote for the F150 Tremor. I bought my ‘22 used with 34k on it and now have 50k. Mine has the 3.5 ecoboost and I love driving it. Pretty crazy what these newer turbo gas engines can do. I had an ‘06 F350 Powerstroke and this ecoboost is making essentially the same power.

 

[jesco88]

I wouldn't by any new 1/2 ton pick-up today. They all have issues with something. Best bet is to buy a used Tundra with the v8. That or a Nissan Titan. Only bad thing I've heard on the Titan is from a buddy of mine working in the oil fields in ND says parts are hard to find, and he's had some electrical issues with the radio and camera etc.

 

[Hydra6]

I wouldn't by any new 1/2 ton pick-up today. They all have issues with something. Best bet is to buy a used Tundra with the v8. That or a Nissan Titan. Only bad thing I've heard on the Titan is from a buddy of mine working in the oil fields in ND says parts are hard to find, and he's had some electrical issues with the radio and camera etc.

I was going the used Titan route but started following some Titan FB pages - lack of parts, cylinder 7 failing, etc. scared me off Titans.

 

[Hydra6]

I am in process of having a 2015 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 Hemi engine rebuild at 179000 miles - I decided better to keep a known truck versus anything new/newer.

Had a 2019 GMC Sierra 1500 AT4. Gorgeous truck. A sensor failed, stranded me, and no replacement parts kept me without a truck for 30+ days waiting on parts. Same truck was 6.2 with a 10 speed. Sold that GMC as fast as I could with the known 10 speed issues and now the 6.2 debacle.

Looked at the used Tundras but either crazy pricing or super high miles.

I bought a used Subaru Ascent and drive it to PRS events all over the South. Screw the new/newer trucks.