Need help removing Spartan nock bushings

[TheCougar]

I’ve got some brass insert weights in my BEA Spartan arrows that I want to swap out. I’ve tried removing the insert in two arrows, and ruined both shafts in the attempt. My next option is to remove the nock bushing and use a long Allen wrench to remove the weight while the insert is still in place. I’ve tried to pull the bushing out with pliers, and that hasn’t worked. What are my options for removing the bushing and reinstalling? Is there a tool or technique for this?

 

[Marine4life]

They make a long allen tool for this which is like 36 inches long and slides right in the nock end of the arrow. With mine I don’t even remove the nock bushing


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[Marine4life]

Here is one that will work. I think gold tips tool also works on the BE inserts but not 100% sure

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[TheCougar]

They make a long allen tool for this which is like 36 inches long and slides right in the nock end of the arrow. With mine I don’t even remove the nock bushing


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I’ll have to go back and check, but I don’t think the weights will fit with the nock bushing still in place, hence my desire to remove them. If I’m wrong, then I’m an idiot and I can just use the Allen wrench to remove them!

 

[Marine4life]

Then you must have different weights than I do. Mine fit and I have swapped them out many times.


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[TheCougar]

Then you must have different weights than I do. Mine fit and I have swapped them out many times.


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I’ll go check again. Maybe I screwed it up somehow.

 

[TheCougar]

Then you must have different weights than I do. Mine fit and I have swapped them out many times.


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Then you must have different weights than I do. Mine fit and I have swapped them out many times.


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I checked this morning. My weights will not fit through the nock bushing. I’m using the BEA weights, and they are just a little too big to fit with the nock bushing installed. Back to square one, needing to remove and replace the nock bushing without damaging anything or affecting accuracy.

 

[Marine4life]

That’s a bummer. We definitely have different weights. These are what I am using on my Spartans. I would guess you have two options. You could cut about 1/2 and inch off the nock end and then put new bushing in if you have long enough arrows.
What I think I would try first is applying heat to the insert and see if you can break the adhesive bond. I have done this successfully with gold tips once when removing alum inserts to switch to SS. I screwed in a filed point and applied heat to the field point.
Hope you figure it out.

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[UtahJimmy]

You can remove the bushings with pliers. If they are stubborn, let them sit in some boiling water.

You'll most likely damage the nock bushings though. You can replace them with "H" nocks...

2 birds one stone: remove some weight from the wrong end of your arrow AND get rid of the crappy BEA "R" nocks!

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[TheCougar]

You can remove the bushings with pliers. If they are stubborn, let them sit in some boiling water.

You'll most likely damage the nock bushings though. You can replace them with "H" nocks...

2 birds one stone: remove some weight from the wrong end of your arrow AND get rid of the crappy BEA "R" nocks!

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What nocks do you replace them with?

 

[UtahJimmy]

What nocks do you replace them with?

I use Easton nocks. I trim off a couple of the larger bumps either 2 or 4 so that don't fit too snug and split the carbon.

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[stonewall]

If I may share my experience, as shoot spartans as well...

TheCougar - you are using spartan weights which fit the diameter of the shaft. Marine4Life is using rampage weights which do fit through that bushing (and fit the rampage/renegade diameters) - (as you all probably already know). I've never had to remove the bushing, though I did have one come out one time just because. What I was told to do, is to fit a long screw into the bushing - apply heat to the screw to allow it to transfer to bushing and then pull out with pliers (pliers gripping the screw). Again, I've never tried it, but it sounds logical to me.

As far as how I change weights on my spartans - I use the blue "cool melt" glue first off. When I need to change, I run the shaft under hot water in the kitchen sink. Then I grip arrow with one of those rubber arrow grip things, then pliers on the point and pull apart.

I too have heard H nocks will work. I've thought to use the H nocturnals, but have plenty of x's on hand, so haven't spent the money on it.

 

[TheCougar]

If I may share my experience, as shoot spartans as well...

TheCougar - you are using spartan weights which fit the diameter of the shaft. Marine4Life is using rampage weights which do fit through that bushing (and fit the rampage/renegade diameters) - (as you all probably already know). I've never had to remove the bushing, though I did have one come out one time just because. What I was told to do, is to fit a long screw into the bushing - apply heat to the screw to allow it to transfer to bushing and then pull out with pliers (pliers gripping the screw). Again, I've never tried it, but it sounds logical to me.

As far as how I change weights on my spartans - I use the blue "cool melt" glue first off. When I need to change, I run the shaft under hot water in the kitchen sink. Then I grip arrow with one of those rubber arrow grip things, then pliers on the point and pull apart.

I too have heard H nocks will work. I've thought to use the H nocturnals, but have plenty of x's on hand, so haven't spent the money on it.

I have never used the cool melt glue. I used “full hate” glue and the inserts are in there forever. To the point that the two that I have attempted to remove on damaged arrows completed exploded the shaft before they came out. I am eventually going to have to try heating up the bushing to release it, but not this season. Turns out with my 80# limbs, I’m starting to get underspined, so adding weight to the front is only going to make it worse.

 

[MattB]

Guys killed piles of game before FOC was a thing. No need to ruin expensive equipment chasing....what exactly? Some arbitrary number some person on the internet suggested you should acheive?

Leave the weights on your archery bench and go kill something. With confidence.

 

[stonewall]

I would try running the bushing under hot water in the sink - you might see if a screw fits in it snugly to where you can pull it out. I'd do that before applying heat to the screw.

I was thinking you already had the weights in there and were trying to get them out. If it's just adding you're doing, then I'm with MattB. At 80#, FOC won't matter imho (coming from a guy with more reading experience than first hand knowledge, admittedly).

in 2017 I was shooting 70# (initially). 30" 300s with the 75gr weights up front. I felt I was underspined and just turned my bow down to 67/68. I think I was still underspined, but the groups were good, so I went with it. pass throughs on a bull and 2 WT bucks - but both were good shots and would have passed thru on lighter setups. maybe just turn your bow down?

 

[TheCougar]

Guys killed piles of game before FOC was a thing. No need to ruin expensive equipment chasing....what exactly? Some arbitrary number some person on the internet suggested you should acheive?

Leave the weights on your archery bench and go kill something. With confidence.

I’m not going for extreme FOC. I’m around 14% right now. I just want to add some weight to my arrow.