Yeah, I followed that energy mantra up until recently, largely due to this forum. The fact that almost all bows are under 100 ft/lbs of energy shows how ridiculous that measure is. My longest shots were both at 400 (.308), and both elk, and I'm putting in the practice to get to 500 (new 6.5CM), my "long range" goal, so I'm with you on shooting 900, but I'm sure there are the rare few that can do it ethically. Me, I'd rather hunt closer anyway...
Without getting off subject too far, I think you should look at the damage to MOOSE with the .223 tmk in the .223 thread. Apparently they offer similar lethality to high end lead bullets out of magnums. I don't want the meat loss and lead atomization into the meat, so I'm sticking with 6.5CM and copper bullets, and 500 yards. But, its tough to argue with the proof in that thread that tells me that magnums are silly. That, and I've punched a 1" hole through an elk with an arrow, and killed 3 elk with a 30-30 (1 DRT, 1 70 yards, and 1 crawled 50-100 yards in a few seconds).
Just trying to help people shoot better (recoil) and waste less precious animals. The west is getting swarmed with people, and there aren't as many deer and elk to go around.
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suppressed, either of your existing rifles would be pretty mild with an 18-20" barrel as well
Well, since you like explosive lead bullets, you could shoot something much milder. Apparently the large amount of cheap practice is worth a lot.Yeah, I don't disagree. With bows, however, you arnt going to kill them with impact or energy. More cutting main arteries or having them bleed out. They are also far larger in size than a 6.5 would be...
Haha yeah again I think it all goes back to shot placement and what bullets your using that affects meat damage and "killability". I have had insane luck/success with my berger bullets and all of them are coming from magnums (300WM shooting 185 berger classic hunters and two 7RM shooting 180 berger VLDs). All of them have dropped within 5 feet of where they were standing and none required follow-up shots. Most importantly, no meat damage except for one I shot in the shoulder haha. Insides were destroyed, but I don't eat the stomach or vitals typically.
As far as recoil, I can shoot both my 300WM and 7RM at the range all day and never feel it. They have great muzzlebrakes. My 30-06 I cant shoot more than 15 times without feeling it the next day since it doesnt have a brake. Also, I aint worried about recoil while hunting because you don't feel or hear the shot for some reason haha
Yes, thanks!
