Need a good location for book

[DRUSS]

2nd Hells canyon, but river of no return would work well with titles themselves

 

[Ray]

You want a place that seems approachable but has the potential of simple danger where a manufactured accident can make sense to anyone looking at it through their own eyes.

Bears...nothing for the father to control there, except for the bacon grease on the kids shoes/clothes, but that also has a lot of risk for the father.

Hard terrain...Here, you can explore land nav problems. How many times have hunters split up only for one of them to never make it back to camp? The father stalks the kid and the kid flails around in the terrain for a week? Could explore technology here as well. Sat phone does not work. InReach does not work. etc. What is a compass? Panic ensues, and the woodsy father stands back and watches the kid loose his mind.

The unexpected...a storm causes streams to rise, or a boat to flip and gear is lost. The kid gets swept down stream and the father can't follow due to falls/rocks. Or does not want to and spends the following days making sure the kid is truly gone.

Snow trekking in the OR cascades on closed forest service roads...happens often...even on state highways in northern NV in the winter. get stuck and then send the kid for help and he is never seen again. 30 Days of sitting in the stuck truck vs a few days of flailing around the bush freezing to death. Hypodermic state being eaten alive by coyotes...yuck

Pretty much anywhere out west can support these plots. Heck, in the King book Rose Madder it happened in a small east coast wood lot.

 

[tipsntails7]

You want a place that seems approachable but has the potential of simple danger where a manufactured accident can make sense to anyone looking at it through their own eyes.

Bears...nothing for the father to control there, except for the bacon grease on the kids shoes/clothes, but that also has a lot of risk for the father.

Hard terrain...Here, you can explore land nav problems. How many times have hunters split up only for one of them to never make it back to camp? The father stalks the kid and the kid flails around in the terrain for a week? Could explore technology here as well. Sat phone does not work. InReach does not work. etc. What is a compass? Panic ensues, and the woodsy father stands back and watches the kid loose his mind.

The unexpected...a storm causes streams to rise, or a boat to flip and gear is lost. The kid gets swept down stream and the father can't follow due to falls/rocks. Or does not want to and spends the following days making sure the kid is truly gone.

Snow trekking in the OR cascades on closed forest service roads...happens often...even on state highways in northern NV in the winter. get stuck and then send the kid for help and he is never seen again. 30 Days of sitting in the stuck truck vs a few days of flailing around the bush freezing to death. Hypodermic state being eaten alive by coyotes...yuck

Pretty much anywhere out west can support these plots. Heck, in the King book Rose Madder it happened in a small east coast wood lot.

The only place I've ever been lost is on Mt. hood in a snowstorm for 3 days... closest I've ever come to thinking I was going to die. That trip is the reason I carry 2 compasses at all times now.


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[COlineman78]

It's missing the dangerous wildlife, but the most dangerous terrain I know of is Maroon Bells, CO aka The Deadly Bells. Colorado only really has mountain lions and black bears. No snakes at that altitude. Danger comes from terrain and weather.

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[DWarcher]

 

[tipsntails7]

Jesus... that's about the most cryptic forestry sign I've ever seen... put that shit on the cover..


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[WhiskeyMaker]

I agree with the Thorofare, but would also add the Washakie wilderness. People are losing horses/mules in there all the time either to the rugged and steep trails or bears.

 

[Where's Bruce?]

So is Frank Church the best location with rattlers, mt. lions, wolves, bear and elk in addition to dramatic terrain, weather and possible rockslides? My story utilizes a brutal backcountry environment as an actual role...not just a location. I need an area that looks beautiful but one that can easily kill you, even if you are very experienced and just a bit unlucky. <g> Also wanna work the location into the title. Perhaps "The Frank" would be good.

 

[freebird134]

So is Frank Church the best location with rattlers, mt. lions, wolves, bear and elk in addition to dramatic terrain, weather and possible rockslides? My story utilizes a brutal backcountry environment as an actual role...not just a location. I need an area that looks beautiful but one that can easily kill you, even if you are very experienced and just a bit unlucky. <g> Also wanna work the location into the title. Perhaps "The Frank" would be good.

I still gotta say Hells Canyon can beat Frank on all accounts. The FC has so many airstrips and attention, it's hardly feels as remote as it used to


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[robby denning]

Idaho/Canada Selkirks (sp?) or the mountain ranges bordering Canada west of glacier park. Remote, Grizz n wolves and a few hillbillies too which adds a whole new Deliverance flavored plot haha

 

[Where's Bruce?]

I have decided to go with the Frank Church solely because i can play it up as one of the ",,,few places in America, and nowhere outside of Alaska, provide a Wilderness experience to match the sheer magnitude of the Frank Church-River of No Return, the largest contiguous unit of the National Wilderness Preservation System in the Lower 48."

City people will just accept this out of hand and experience backcountry visitors will respect this location. Now I need to identify an area nearby where a fictitious cattle ranch could be located. Challis Hot Springs perhaps?

 

[tipsntails7]

I have decided to go with the Frank Church solely because i can play it up as one of the ",,,few places in America, and nowhere outside of Alaska, provide a Wilderness experience to match the sheer magnitude of the Frank Church-River of No Return, the largest contiguous unit of the National Wilderness Preservation System in the Lower 48."

City people will just accept this out of hand and experience backcountry visitors will respect this location. Now I need to identify an area nearby where a fictitious cattle ranch could be located. Challis Hot Springs perhaps?

Bruce you should take 2 weeks off and go. Nothing like the real thing, take photo's and live it for a bit. Will make it easier to write about as well, if that's really what you want to do.


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[Kotaman]

The badlands of ND can be pretty steep and remote. Only thing you really have to worry about though is rattlesnakes and mountain lions. The fire ants can be a real bitch too

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If you think the Badlands of ND is "steep and remote", you need to get out more. (Yes, I'm from ND and have hunted said Badlands.)

Why not Ak? Some of the most remote wicked country I've ever traversed. The Alaska Range, the Chugach, even the remoteness of the Brooks etc...South of the border, the Selway, The Bob, Hell's Canyon and Frank Church are worthy. I hunted cats in an area of Utah where the Anastasia Cliff Dwellers lived that would make for great reading as well.

 

[Travis Bertrand]

sawtooth mountains in idaho is my first thought...
Frank Church is probably more recognizable for general public.

 

[jlrichesin]

The name says it all: Hells Canyon.

i second this!

 

[Beendare]

Yeah, Florida mtns or Hells canyon are good ones.

Monitors in Nev are good too....lots of snakes....had 3 rattlers in the first mile last time I was there....none up high though. And its out in the middle of nowhere....hours off the road from hwy 50, "The loneliest road in America"

 

[Sverimerica]

I am writing a book where a tough as nails old man takes his "just met" daughter's fiance out on a hunting trip to get to know one another. But I need a location (in the U.S.) that is so reputedly challenging and dangerous that it is unthinkable to take a newbie there. Thought about the Badlands of Montana but is there a place that hunters would consider more extreme without going high into the mountains of AK? The storyline leaves the reader wondering if the father is planning to off this young guy and make it look like an accident...thus the need for a LEVEL 10 hunting location. Someplace loaded with risks...pit vipers, brown bears, extreme weather changes, severely steep country..that kind of thing. Wanna place that will film well when I sell the rights to a movie studio. LOL

I haven't been able to imagine a better location (that regular people and hunters will recognize) than the Badlands. Is there one? Don't wanna do the southern swamp thing.

What a damn awesome idea for a book! Looking forward to reading it!

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[oldgoat]

Maroon Belles are rugged and have a great name.

 

[JWP58]

Miami. Feral chickens are a worthy adversary. Free range fowl.