I carry a 338 wm, weighs 10 lbs loaded, I looked at getting a lighter rifle, but couldn't part with the cash, I might have to skip elk hunting for a year, and NO WAY is that happening, I'd rather drop 3-4 lbs off my waist, and I don't notice the weight anyway. Now if I had cash to burn, I'd buy an UL rifle, but that ain't the case.