My rifle scope saga continues…

[Treeratslayer]

@Treeratslayer,
I’ll second the Trijicon Tenmile, Maven RS1.2, or any NF. FFP is the way to go, hands down. Mil is also the better way

Sell me on mil vs moa. I’ve never owned mil


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[atmat]

Sell me on mil vs moa. I’ve never owned mil


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Easier mental numbers for dialing; quick drop; and wind brackets.

 

[atmat]

Leupold… durability will be as good as anything nothing

FTFY

 

[Schmo]

Sell me on mil vs moa. I’ve never owned mil

Sent you a pm

 

[OSUsmokey]

TRACT Optics have a few options that would fit what your looking at!

 

[Fartrell Cluggins]

Recommending SWFA at this point is pointless.

Yep. Unless you want to roll the dice on the used market.

 

[IAm_Not_Lost]

FTFY

Oh my goodness, that's so clever.

 

[atmat]

Oh my goodness, that's so clever.

Right?

 

[Cannonball]

WTS - Trijicon Tenmile HX 3-18x44 FFP MOA

Like new Trijicon Tenmile HX 3-18x44 FFP MOA. Comes with everything pictured, missing front cap it came with (no idea what i did with it) but i have a butler creek cap i will include. Only taken to the range a handful of times. Just decided FFP isn't for me. $950 tyd

rokslide.com

 

[Doc Holliday]

A Tenmile would look dumb on a NULA. It's too long.

With OPs stated budget of $1,000, if you had to buy something today I would get this: https://www.eurooptic.com/trijicon-...ope-mil-dot-crosshair-w-green-dot-200110.aspx

But given you are probably not using it out West until 2025 at this point, I would save up and get this:

Product Description

Product Description | Camera Land NY

cameralandny.com

If you call Doug at Cameraland he will probably sell it to you for closer to $1,500

 

[Schmo]

The Tenmile would be just fine on the NULA. Here’s mine on a Tikka:

 

[TreeDog]

Grew up in WV and hunted a lot there. If I was picking a scope to mostly hunt there and take a trip or two a year, this is what I would get:

Trijicon Credo 3-9x40 SFP w/ Green MIL-Square, 1 in., Matte Black Riflescope 2900042

FREE SHIPPING on Trijicon Credo 3-9x40 SFP w/ Green MIL-Square, 1 in., Matte Black Riflescope 2900042

www.eurooptic.com

Then learn about mils and quick drop. Makes life easy once you understand it. Also jealous of the NULA.

 

[Treeratslayer]

Grew up in WV and hunted a lot there. If I was picking a scope to mostly hunt there and take a trip or two a year, this is what I would get:

Trijicon Credo 3-9x40 SFP w/ Green MIL-Square, 1 in., Matte Black Riflescope 2900042

FREE SHIPPING on Trijicon Credo 3-9x40 SFP w/ Green MIL-Square, 1 in., Matte Black Riflescope 2900042

www.eurooptic.com

Then learn about mils and quick drop. Makes life easy once you understand it. Also jealous of the NULA.

Yeah I got stupid lucky with the gun. My father in laws mom worked for him. Got it for years of service. Then I got it because he doesn’t hunt.


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[Mtnmilsurp]

Sell me on mil vs moa. I’ve never owned mil


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This has been explained on Rokslide many times but here goes another…

For many loads (I know this works great for my .30-06, 6.5x55, 6CM, 6 ARC, .223) load for velocities given BC, altitude, scope height, typical temperature, etc such that you get the following elevation adjustment in Mils and this is super easy to do. Works great for loads at .400-.536 G1 BC from 2650-2800 MV.

100 yards =zero
300 yards = 1.0 mil
400 yards = 2.0 mil
500 yards = 3.0 mil

So if you range a target at 420 yards it takes no time at all to come up with 2.2 mils. For one of my loads this even works +/- 0.1 mils out to 700 yards

 

[Treeratslayer]

This has been explained on Rokslide many times but here goes another…

For many loads (I know this works great for my .30-06, 6.5x55, 6CM, 6 ARC, .223) load for velocities given BC, altitude, scope height, typical temperature, etc such that you get the following elevation adjustment in Mils and this is super easy to do. Works great for loads at .400-.536 G1 BC from 2650-2800 MV.

100 yards =zero
300 yards = 1.0 mil
400 yards = 2.0 mil
500 yards = 3.0 mil

So if you range a target at 420 yards it takes no time at all to come up with 2.2 mils. For one of my loads this even works +/- 0.1 miles out to 700 yards

Great explanation. Thanks


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[eric1115]

This has been explained on Rokslide many times but here goes another…

For many loads (I know this works great for my .30-06, 6.5x55, 6CM, 6 ARC, .223) load for velocities given BC, altitude, scope height, typical temperature, etc such that you get the following elevation adjustment in Mils and this is super easy to do. Works great for loads at .400-.536 G1 BC from 2650-2800 MV.

100 yards =zero
300 yards = 1.0 mil
400 yards = 2.0 mil
500 yards = 3.0 mil

So if you range a target at 420 yards it takes no time at all to come up with 2.2 mils. For one of my loads this even works +/- 0.1 mils out to 700 yards

Even better, for wind you figure out your "base" wind speed or "gun number", say 6 mph. This is the speed that gets you .6 mil wind hold at 600 yards.

Then, it all scales really nicely. A 12 mph wind at 400 yards is a 0.8 mil hold. A 9 mph wind at 500 is 0.75 mil. 24 mph at 300 is 1.2 mil. Super simple mental math to figure wind holds.

 

[gearguywb]

Grab a NF. Done.

 

[EdP]

I have Vortex, Leupold, and Trijicon on my hunting rifles. Have never had problems with any of them. The Vortex are Diamondback HP and Vipers. I'm not convinced all the trashing of Leupolds on here is deserved. It strikes me more as jumping on a hater bandwagon. I'm not convinced it isn't valid either, so if I was to buy another scope for a hunting rifle it would probably be a Trijicon. Looking at the specs the eye relief is a little shorter than other similar scopes and I was a bit concerned about that with the one I bought, but found it to be a non issue.

 

[Treeratslayer]

So after all the advice I’ve been searching the classifieds and interwebs pretty heavy. I’ve found a few options but several are really pushing my budget. Seems like

Tenmile ~ 1200ish
Nf shv ~ 1200 again. Maybe 1000 if one pops up used.

Or I found a swfa ss hd for about 800.

Is the 400 worth it for the step up? I haven’t found a lot comparing them. 800 seemed like a pretty good price compared to retail(when they’re in stock).

I also like the look of the swfa reticle. Seems a little less chaotic over the NF.


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[Billy Goat]

If this is your only gun, it would be hard for me to put an SWFA on it. I have one, I like the scope, it works, does everything it needs to do including work in low light.

If something does happen, which they seem to hold up really well, but nothing is 100%, there's no telling when or if you would see a replacement.

Both NF or Trijicon will have you another scope in a few weeks, assuming with Trijicon you are the original purchase, not sure with NF.


If shopping used, it might be the only way you would get a sniff at a warranty is SWFA, but them being able to replace it is pretty questionable.

I don't think a warranty is everything, I want a functioning scope that holds zero over a warranty that keeps replacing a scope that won't hold zero. But once you are down to those 3 you are into reliable scopes and a warranty would start to weigh into my purchase decision.