My Next Rifle

[SDHNTR]

Really odd choice of rifles and cartridges for hunting.
I would buy a tikka in 243 (8 twist) or 6.5 CM

Agreed. Really odd. If you want to hunt, buy a hunting rifle. WTH is a QFix anyway?

 

[Spoonbill]

Don’t get caught up with bullet diameters, I came across this it helps illustrate that bullets matter more than headstamps.

 

[KcRoyals85]

Quite a jump from borrowing other peoples rifles to a Qfix and niche calibers like 8.6 and 7saum. Id agree with the crowd of essentially any generic short or standard action caliber with good factory ammo support to start. I'm partial to the 270 win but if you want .284 and above 7mm-08, 308 and 30-06 are all very good options. Rifle wise a bergara b14, tikka, howa/vanguard and x bolt are all great options that are well priced. Put some good glass on the rifle and don't overcomplicate it.

With my personal biases, I'd probably end up with a 7mm rem mag or 6,5 prc if I were looking to shoot 5-600 yards and worried about ballistics without handloading.

 

[Cole022]

Your choices might quite possibly the two cartridges furthest apart on the spectrum of usefulness. Id fully recommend you dont take a shot past 50yds and you get something you can practice with.

Start reading about ballistics and go practice. Go read about terminal ballistics and then read it all over again. Its going to challenge everything you've ever been told. Just trust it and you'll end up a much better shooter at the end of the day.

If you have to have a 7mm, then a 7-08 because it will do what you want and you will shoot it more. A 6 creed would do the same thing or more with even less recoil. If you want to spend that money on one gun, get a seekins IMO. But if you want the smart play, buy two threaded tikkas, one in 223, and a can. Don't forget your optics too.... you really need to check some ballistics charts on the two you mentioned or any rifle youre interested in for that matter.

I’ve already ran both cartridges through a ballistics calculator and I’ve taken game up to 400 yards, I know these are both in the opposite side of the spectrum that’s why I was seeking others peoples opinions on a practical range for out west for an average shooter.

 

[Cole022]

Interesting reply, do you think that the other replies were dishonest, or you just seeking affirmation?

No guess I worded it wrong, all the replies have been very useful information. If I was just seeking affirmation I wouldn’t have posted this thread as I know I won’t get it with these niche cartridges.

Quite a jump from borrowing other peoples rifles to a Qfix and niche calibers like 8.6 and 7saum. Id agree with the crowd of essentially any generic short or standard action caliber with good factory ammo support to start. I'm partial to the 270 win but if you want .284 and above 7mm-08, 308 and 30-06 are all very good options. Rifle wise a bergara b14, tikka, howa/vanguard and x bolt are all great options that are well priced. Put some good glass on the rifle and don't overcomplicate it.

With my personal biases, I'd probably end up with a 7mm rem mag or 6,5 prc if I were looking to shoot 5-600 yards and worried about ballistics without handloading.

Yeah I totally get the jump being weird, I started hunting when I was 17 with a buddy who hunted his whole life and got a 308 the next year for my self to hunt with. But with getting by older and personal responsibility I had to get rid of the 308 and only duck hunted. But now since I’m a full grown adult with a house and a good job I figured it’s time to jump back in to hunting off of borrowed gear. Definitely looks like I need to go to a gun store and just take a looks at stuff that fits me well before making any decisions.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

7SAUM is a lot of fun, especially suppressed. It’s not a “shoot it all day” in hunting gun weight rifle, but it’s still an excellent cartridge.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Don’t get caught up with bullet diameters, I came across this it helps illustrate that bullets matter more than headstamps.

Indeed.

 

[Cole022]

7SAUM is a lot of fun, especially suppressed. It’s not a “shoot it all day” in hunting gun weight rifle, but it’s still an excellent cartridge.

Yeah I can imagine it can take a toll, I personally couldn’t imagine shooing high round counts commonly. Do you have a 7 Saum yourself? If so what barrel length are you running suppressed?

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Agreed. Really odd. If you want to hunt, buy a hunting rifle. WTH is a QFix anyway?

I’m with you for sure. But for a “dick around” with reloading, VERY long range, super high BC, blah blah rifle, the 7SAUM in a Tikka is pretty neat.

 

[HuntHarder]

Interesting reply, do you think that the other replies were dishonest, or you just seeking affirmation?

Are you looking for an argument because he didn't respond to your comment?

 

[Ajsomp]

Q products are hot garbage. But if you want to blow your money - go nuts.

You’re asking for a gun you can hopefully someday take to “insert location” to shoot “elk sized game” but you’d probably be better off narrowing down what you will actually hunt. A 223/243/6mm/6.5/7mm/30 cal will all work, and work equally well on game. And if you say you don’t want to be a long range hunter, then I would assume you will shoot anything 300 yards and in which means any of those options will work.

7saum or other wildcats are not my personal jam. No factory loads, no real advantages, and really it’s just being different to be different. 6.5 creed is THE most popular cartridge, for good reason. If you are set on the 7mm, cool, you just aren’t getting any advantages from picking it for your range of hunting.

 

[Kyguy]

Those two rifles and calibers are at such opposite ends of the shooting spectrum that I don't understand how they would be the two choices that you're trying to narrow down.

Just buy another .308 and be good for everything for everything you want to do with easy ammo availability.

 

[Castle Rock]

Are you looking for an argument because he didn't respond to your comment?

No, are you?

 

[kkp005]

Wutttttt ?
Like others said , just get a threaded tikka in 243, 6.5creed , 6.5prc or 308 and be done..
I’m not really sure how a 8.6 gayout fits any where in the equation

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Those two rifles and calibers are at such opposite ends of the shooting spectrum that I don't understand how they would be the two choices that you're trying to narrow down.

Just buy another .308 and be good for everything for everything you want to do with easy ammo availability.

Agreed.


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[ResearchinStuff]

The best part about 7 saum is that if you buy 1,000 cases when their actuality produced every decade or so, you can sell them for a bazillion dollars each in between runs to all the guys who got wooed by a ballistics chart without ever looking at inventory.

Not only are these 2 options very different, neither is a very good fit for your alleged uses.

 

[Spoonbill]

Indeed.

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Was that with an 80 eldx?

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Was that with an 80 eldx?