Multi Pin Sight Setup for Elk

[Elkhntr08]

Switched from a SH 7 pin to a Fast Eddie 3 pin, all .10. Pins set at 20, 30 and 40, but I can adjust the top pin out to 70. It’s been working great for 3 years now.

 

[ATL]

How many elk have you killed and how many have you lost due to a bad hit. I'm not a fan of the trick pin, too much room for error and it's pretty risky hitting an elk below 8/43 unless your forward of the leg bone into the heart. You are hitting the diagram if you hit POA and you better have a huge cutting head on if you want to kill one hitting it there.


Here is a shot that hit POA in you pic, the bull didn't die from this hit but I used a big cut expandable and essentially dumped his blood and guts out and he went and laid down 20 yards from where he was hit and I had to put another arrow in him after sneaking up on him and watching him suffer. IMO if I were shooting a COC fixed head the bull would have never been recovered from that shot. Back 1-2" from POA is 100% guts and forward 1-2" is a leg bone you aren't getting through.

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You don’t need use the trick pin system then. It works for me, maybe it will work for others. I have used this aiming technique on three bulls, 2 NM, and 1 WY. For the last 5 seasons or so I adapted it to deer with the 35 yard pin, and the last two seasons it is all I have used for shots under 30. Works like a charm…..for me. Good luck!

 

[ATL]

Forgot……No lost elk, I used the Slick Trick 100 Standard on those three bulls. Watched two of them fall in sight.

 

[ATL]

I reread your post, I think you miss understand the system. I do not intend for the POI to be at the POA for any shot less than 43 yards. The arrow is always going to impact a minimum of 6.25”-14” above POA, solidly in the kill zone. For ranges beyond 43 yards I always intend to range and aim traditionally with a pin (50 or 65 in my case) or gap between them.

If you think 43 yards is too close to the edge, then make the maximum yardage 40 yards, etc., for a higher POI. The trick pin system is adaptable to how ever you want to use it. It just allows the flattest part of the trajectory to work in your favor when the action is fast.

If sitting a water hole, or expected trail crossing, and you know the exact distance then by all means use the exact pin, or dial, for that distance. The trick pin system is great for times when a bull comes in unexpected at an unknown distance less than 43 yards (for me). Which is almost always hunting thicker timber, allying, etc.

It also avoids high POI, because the highest the impact will be is mid chest. I think high hits are a bigger threat than low.

 

[WoodDuck]

HHA optimizer with three .010 pins at 20, 30, and 40. Whole site housing slides so bottom pin is 40-80.

 

[LongLeader]

I’m in the minority. 7 pin Hogg it, top 5 0.019, last 2 0.010. A lot of dead elk and no sight related issues.

Sliders seem cool. I have never shot with one.

 

[CMF]

Anybody find 4 pins a good compromise? Is 3 too few? What yardages do you go with if using less than 5 pins?

What about size of pin? Smaller, say 0.10”, for the slider pin?

I’m looking to experiment a bit this offseason to figure it out, but figured I’d ask the collective group here first…

I experimented with a 4th pin, .010 on my BG mountain ascent slider. I'm back to 3 pins.

I've also experimented with different yardages, mainly 20,30,40 and 25,40, 50.

After trying multiple things, I like 3- .019 pins at ~25,40,50. (it may not be exactly 25yd, I shoot at 20 and 30 until I'm equally high at 20 as I am low at 30) The only thinking I really have to do is adjusting aim on grouse at close yardages.

 

[ndfb35]

I use a two-pin verticle Boonie, and a three-pin horizontal Prüf. The Boonie is .019 and the Prüf is .019, .019 and .010 all green. I prefer the horizontal pins.

 

[450]

How many elk have you killed and how many have you lost due to a bad hit. I'm not a fan of the trick pin, too much room for error and it's pretty risky hitting an elk below 8/43 unless your forward of the leg bone into the heart. You are hitting the diagram if you hit POA and you better have a huge cutting head on if you want to kill one hitting it there.


Here is a shot that hit POA in you pic, the bull didn't die from this hit but I used a big cut expandable and essentially dumped his blood and guts out and he went and laid down 20 yards from where he was hit and I had to put another arrow in him after sneaking up on him and watching him suffer. IMO if I were shooting a COC fixed head the bull would have never been recovered from that shot. Back 1-2" from POA is 100% guts and forward 1-2" is a leg bone you aren't getting through.

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What expandables were you shooting? Thanks

 

[nphunter]

What expandables were you shooting? Thanks

I’ve killed elk with Trypans, Dead Meat’s and the new Evolution Hyde. Currently using glue in Hyde’s and like them. I’d shoot any of the above, the OG Trypans had collar issues but the NC or the G5 T2 address that.

I’m really liking the Hyde and like that they have COC head out front.