Missing hunters in Colorado

[Spoony]

I had 1 out of 18 days elk hunting this year where I did not have a lightning strike at some point during the day. Archery elk in Colorado is serious buisness so learn the early signs of an unstable atmosphere. Lots of tiny puffy/wispy clouds in the morning and warm temps will almost certainly grow clouds and combine into thunderheads in the late afternoon. Generally speaking, while thunderstorms can happen fast, there are almost always signs of impending T storms. Living, hiking, fishing, and hunting in Colorado you learn what those signs are.

One year I got caught passing over a ridge at 12,500’, well above tree line, and got pommeled by a real real bad storm. Big marble sized hail, lightning strikes every 10-20 seconds, no place to hide or cover. It’s something you don’t forget. Quite possibly the scariest experience of my life.

God bless those kids and their families. Be safe out there.

 

[RockAndSage]

Lots of tiny puffy/wispy clouds in the morning and warm temps will almost certainly grow clouds and combine into thunderheads in the late afternoon.

That's a great tip. If you have any others for reading the weather over there, keep 'em coming.

 

[wyosam]

I understand most would, because they are more important than nature. I feel differently about it. I am not more important. If someone says no fire, it means no fire. It is just the society in America that feels it is centered around themselves. I live in those Rocky mountains and saw what careless hunters can do in 2020, right out my window. They probably didn't care either to burn down 600 homes that will never be able to be rebuilt. Been 5 years and less than 20 homes have been able to be rebuilt... Don't want to turn this thread into something is shouldn't, but restrictions and laws are meant to be followed. View attachment 939216

Yep, that was a spooky fire. That’s what a “small warming fire” as I recall does when fire conditions are right.


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[Dr.Spaniel]

I understand most would, because they are more important than nature. I feel differently about it. I am not more important. If someone says no fire, it means no fire. It is just the society in America that feels it is centered around themselves. I live in those Rocky mountains and saw what careless hunters can do in 2020, right out my window. They probably didn't care either to burn down 600 homes that will never be able to be rebuilt. Been 5 years and less than 20 homes have been able to be rebuilt... Don't want to turn this thread into something is shouldn't, but restrictions and laws are meant to be followed. View attachment 939216

“I understand most would, because they are more important than nature. I feel differently about it. I am not more important.”
And yet you live in a home built from natural materials. You drive on roads that cut through the landscape. You eat things that were at one time living. lol

This thread should be locked.

 

[stumblinhorse]

“I understand most would, because they are more important than nature. I feel differently about it. I am not more important.”
And yet you live in a home built from natural materials. You drive on roads that cut through the landscape. You eat things that were at one time living. lol

This thread should be locked.

Wow, building shelter is natural, eating is natural. Starting a fire when it is against the law is just not something I will do. Not sure where people draw the line with what they will do that is illegal when it suits them. I find it easier to follow all laws possible.

 

[Dr.Spaniel]

Wow, building shelter is natural, eating is natural. Starting a fire when it is against the law is just not something I will do. Not sure where people draw the line with what they will do that is illegal when it suits them. I find it easier to follow all laws possible.

Ok. I’m big into Rule Number 1 of living.

 

[Ucsdryder]

Wow, building shelter is natural, eating is natural. Starting a fire when it is against the law is just not something I will do. Not sure where people draw the line with what they will do that is illegal when it suits them. I find it easier to follow all laws possible.

Building a fire is natural. Our ancestors were doing it before there were “laws”.

Your argument is dumb, don’t be stubborn and keep defending it. If you and your family are camping and a snow storm rolls in, drops a foot of snow, and you need to light a fire to survive and keep your kids alive, you’re not going to do it, because of a fire ban in an area with a foot of snow. “Sorry kids, time to die, there’s a fire ban”.

Come on bro.

 

[homers]

Seems both were killed instantly by a lightning strike

 

[KHNC]

I had 1 out of 18 days elk hunting this year where I did not have a lightning strike at some point during the day. Archery elk in Colorado is serious buisness so learn the early signs of an unstable atmosphere. Lots of tiny puffy/wispy clouds in the morning and warm temps will almost certainly grow clouds and combine into thunderheads in the late afternoon. Generally speaking, while thunderstorms can happen fast, there are almost always signs of impending T storms. Living, hiking, fishing, and hunting in Colorado you learn what those signs are.

One year I got caught passing over a ridge at 12,500’, well above tree line, and got pommeled by a real real bad storm. Big marble sized hail, lightning strikes every 10-20 seconds, no place to hide or cover. It’s something you don’t forget. Quite possibly the scariest experience of my life.

God bless those kids and their families. Be safe out there.

We spike camped at 10k during the 2013 elk season in the Flat Tops. 7 days. The night we spent in the worst thunder and lightning storm i have ever experienced was terrible!! I was in a fkn hammock with a rain tarp. I didnt get wet but it was like i was under a waterfall on both sides. We were in the trees beside a creek. The lightning was so regular the entire camp looked like twilight for 30-40 mins. **** elk hunting if i had to do that shit again.

 

[stumblinhorse]

Building a fire is natural. Our ancestors were doing it before there were “laws”.

Your argument is dumb, don’t be stubborn and keep defending it. If you and your family are camping and a snow storm rolls in, drops a foot of snow, and you need to light a fire to survive and keep your kids alive, you’re not going to do it, because of a fire ban in an area with a foot of snow. “Sorry kids, time to die, there’s a fire ban”.

Come on bro.

Again not gonna argue on this thread. Not dumb to me. If I am not allowed to have a fire I am not gonna have one. I am gonna have something else that will keep my family alive. Pretty simple. I just draw that line. I know others don’t. Again do what you want, most will. But there sometimes are consequences and I would rather not have those. No need to discuss it here, start a thread to discuss it somewhere else.

 

[Coopsdaddy]

“I understand most would, because they are more important than nature. I feel differently about it. I am not more important.”
And yet you live in a home built from natural materials. You drive on roads that cut through the landscape. You eat things that were at one time living. lol

This thread should be locked.

Dude no one wants that,it’s an emergency situation.
Rules and laws are to be broken sometimes.
I’ll also kill any game illegal if I’m starving to death.
You go ahead freeze.
Sounds like you just want to ruffle some feathers.

 

[DB29]

If there was a fire ban in place and you started a fire because you were afraid of dying it would not be illegal under the defense of Private Necessity.

 

[Muddler]

I know next to literally nothing about lightning but got to thinking, if you were out and got caught in a storm, could you slam a tent pole or something similar in the ground in a "higher risk" area to act as a lightning rod, then haul ass to a safe location probably 100+ yds away. Basically if there's gonna be lightning in the area, induce it away from your location. I'm not saying set up a makeshift lightning rod in the middle of a lightning storm, but if you see one rolling it set it up ahead of time before it gets bad. I know it's basically unpredictable, but if you could stack the odds in your favor even a little bit why not. But maybe I'm stupid.

I'm also not saying this would have saved these to young men or should have done this. Prayers for their families.

 

[Dr.Spaniel]

Dude no one wants that,it’s an emergency situation.
Rules and laws are to be broken sometimes.
I’ll also kill any game illegal if I’m starving to death.
You go ahead freeze.
Sounds like you just want to ruffle some feathers.

That’s his comment my man. I 100% agree. I’m literally breaking laws as I type this

 

[CorbLand]

Building a fire is natural. Our ancestors were doing it before there were “laws”.

Your argument is dumb, don’t be stubborn and keep defending it. If you and your family are camping and a snow storm rolls in, drops a foot of snow, and you need to light a fire to survive and keep your kids alive, you’re not going to do it, because of a fire ban in an area with a foot of snow. “Sorry kids, time to die, there’s a fire ban”.

Come on bro.

RS really does have a spectrum of people. On one side we have the “its only a day or two out of season and it is only a mile across the unit boundary” dude and then the “I will die before I break a law” dude.

 

[ElDiablito]

RS really does have a spectrum of people. On one side we have the “its only a day or two out of season and it is only a mile across the unit boundary” dude and then the “I will die before I break a law” dude.

Pretty crazy, isn’t it?!

 

[Dr.Spaniel]

Pretty crazy, isn’t it?!

and that’s why it’s so cool.

 

[Conrad101st]

and that’s why it’s so cool.

Off topic - And it usually does a good job of avoiding politics and religion. Which I appreciate.

On topic - lightning scares the hell out of me. But I’m still going to go camp in a tipi at 10,000 feet as usual.

Let’s go hunt!!!

 

[GSPHUNTER]

Let me just say this I will do what I need to survive.

 

[*zap*]

I preserve my life over nature, .