Minox ZP5 5-25x56 MR4

[Formidilosus]

I figured the lower price was for the standard reticle and we were paying a little extra for the less popular reticle for economy of scale.

It's still a great discount.

The product was always overpriced though, because hardly anyone wanted one at $3600 and now, we are all pushing each other out of the way to get one coming. I don't really see it as a 50% off deal, more of a market correction.

I don’t know. When the ZP5’s were new, they were “THE” alpha scope in PRS with nearly everyone claiming they had glass as good as any scope made. Dudes on SH were falling all over themselves for a year or two for them. Then a couple of well known guys went to another scope brand- and magically the ZP5’s weren’t “quite as good”.

FWIW- I have or have had S&B’s, Swaro X5’s, March, TT’s and ZCO’s…. the ZP5 I have, and one other that I have seen are the most pleasing to look through/the most optically impressive scope I have looked through. Everyone that has done the same side by side has came to the same conclusion that I have seen. They are the only $3,000 plus scope I have paid for, that after using it, I said: “yep, that was worth it”.

 

[Nine Banger]

I don’t know. When the ZP5’s were new, they were “THE” alpha scope in PRS with nearly everyone claiming they had glass as good as any scope made. Dudes on SH were falling all over themselves for a year or two for them. Then a couple of well known guys went to another scope brand- and magically the ZP5’s weren’t “quite as good”.

FWIW- I have or have had S&B’s, Swaro X5’s, March, TT’s and ZCO’s…. the ZP5 I have, and one other that I have seen are the most pleasing to look through/the most optically impressive scope I have looked through. Everyone that has done the same side by side has came to the same conclusion that I have seen. They are the only $3,000 plus scope I have paid for, that after using it, I said: “yep, that was worth it”.

That's cool feedback.

I'm looking forward to shooting it in low light if it gets here before the end of our deer season on 1/1. May be tight.

And playing around with the 6 Creedmoor and the reticle since it was set up for 6XC.

 

[Formidilosus]

That's cool feedback.

I'm looking forward to shooting it in low light

It will get you in trouble with shooting hours.

And playing around with the 6 Creedmoor and the reticle since it was set up for 6XC.

I think some people, maybe most, will initially be like “WTF” with the reticle. But, if you stay with it and understand it… it works really well.

 

[rbutcher1234]

It just seems so large and heavy, but maybe I’m missing the point. The THLR reticle in a 3-9x42 or 3-15x42 form factor is what I wish was going on here.

 

[ID_Matt]

Called and asked a few questions… $1,999.99 price point now. 30-60 day lead. At the $1,599 price point i half thought of buying 2. 1 in THLR to try and 1 in the MR4 that would be more familiar.

 

[wind gypsy]

I figured the lower price was for the standard reticle and we were paying a little extra for the less popular reticle for economy of scale.

It's still a great discount.

The product was always overpriced though, because hardly anyone wanted one at $3600 and now, we are all pushing each other out of the way to get one coming. I don't really see it as a 50% off deal, more of a market correction.

I think the think the market demand for them was hurt by:

1. Not a big name in the US (or any?) market with below market expectations for warranty service
2. Some issues noted with parallax and elevation turret alignment on early runs.
3. Hype and support around TT and Zco as well as more reticle options tracking what some shooters were asking for
4. Resale was not great with $3200 purchase price
5. Doesn't have some slick tool less zero stop/zero adjustment
   1. Doesn't have giant hi vis writeable elevation knob and 10mil turrets making everything as easy to see as some of the new gamer scopes

Still, they reportedly outperform all of the $2-3K scopes (razor g3, ATACR, Mk5, Kahles, etc) by a fair margin optically so for under $2k it seems like a hell of a buy to me vs needing to pay $4k+ for TT/ZCo to be in the same optical class.