I bought this scope earlier this year for my daughter's 7RM and for a western hunting purpose. I called the company first to to make sure there would not be an illuminated model coming out, and she assured me that it had been discussed, and but nothing in development. I ordered the scope and accessories including the Wyoming turret, since I wanted to shoot ballistic turret style and needed a zerostop. When it all arrived, it was a very nicely made scope and well packaged. I mounted to the rifle without trouble- adequate eye relief and fit rings perfectly.
At the range, the first focal plane was new to us, but we liked it. Easy to sight in, the 1/4 MOA clicks were accurate and it held the zero well. The night before leaving for the hunt, I put on the Wyoming turret. This is where the warnings start. IT IS NOT A ZERO STOP TURRET. This is actually a zero-slow-down turret. As you turn the turret to lower the range, the body of the turret starts rubbing the scope and that is the 'zero stop' You can easily go past the zero several clicks, as might happen if an animal jumps out at you at short range and you quickly need to dial down. Not foolproof mechanical zero stop like on on Leupold or Swaro, but a guaranteed failure when used by an excited fool like me or a kid.
Since the there is no functional zero stop, I took off the Wyoming turret and put back on the factory turret. The rest of the story is predictable. I got my daughter onto the elk, and got to 300 yards. I told her the clicks to dial based on the ballistics table. She said, 'the scope was on 10 so I turned it back to 0". 'Which direction, clockwise or counter clockwise?' 'I don't know'. That was the end of the elk hunt. Gun was unusable. Tears.
I tried to contact Maven to try to return the scope and get something with an actual zero stop, but no help. Their return policy is 2 weeks and there are no demo options. And they will not accept a scope back if you mounted it and it did not meet your expectations/ needs - even within 2 weeks.
And they came out with an illuminated scope (rs.4), right after telling to buy the RS.1 as they would not have any illuminated options.
So, if you want a FFP scope with awesome glass at a great price, this is a great choice.
If you need a real mechanical, foolproof, zero-stop - look elsewhere. Illuminated - look elsewhere. A real trial period (one where you can actually shoot a gun with it)- look elsewhere. If I spent the extra money for a mechanical stop would have prevented tears and put an elk in the freezer.
Maven has updated the website to say "This zero-stop operation is a result of the turret mounting flush to the body of the scope vs. an internal mechanical setting."And if that works for you (non-hunting low pressure shooting environments), this may still be a good scope for you. Just not the right scope for hunting with a kid.
At the range, the first focal plane was new to us, but we liked it. Easy to sight in, the 1/4 MOA clicks were accurate and it held the zero well. The night before leaving for the hunt, I put on the Wyoming turret. This is where the warnings start. IT IS NOT A ZERO STOP TURRET. This is actually a zero-slow-down turret. As you turn the turret to lower the range, the body of the turret starts rubbing the scope and that is the 'zero stop' You can easily go past the zero several clicks, as might happen if an animal jumps out at you at short range and you quickly need to dial down. Not foolproof mechanical zero stop like on on Leupold or Swaro, but a guaranteed failure when used by an excited fool like me or a kid.
Since the there is no functional zero stop, I took off the Wyoming turret and put back on the factory turret. The rest of the story is predictable. I got my daughter onto the elk, and got to 300 yards. I told her the clicks to dial based on the ballistics table. She said, 'the scope was on 10 so I turned it back to 0". 'Which direction, clockwise or counter clockwise?' 'I don't know'. That was the end of the elk hunt. Gun was unusable. Tears.
I tried to contact Maven to try to return the scope and get something with an actual zero stop, but no help. Their return policy is 2 weeks and there are no demo options. And they will not accept a scope back if you mounted it and it did not meet your expectations/ needs - even within 2 weeks.
And they came out with an illuminated scope (rs.4), right after telling to buy the RS.1 as they would not have any illuminated options.
So, if you want a FFP scope with awesome glass at a great price, this is a great choice.
If you need a real mechanical, foolproof, zero-stop - look elsewhere. Illuminated - look elsewhere. A real trial period (one where you can actually shoot a gun with it)- look elsewhere. If I spent the extra money for a mechanical stop would have prevented tears and put an elk in the freezer.
Maven has updated the website to say "This zero-stop operation is a result of the turret mounting flush to the body of the scope vs. an internal mechanical setting."And if that works for you (non-hunting low pressure shooting environments), this may still be a good scope for you. Just not the right scope for hunting with a kid.
