What kind of hunting do you do?Maven B1.2 10x42 vs B6 10x50. If you could only buy one, which one would choose.
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If low light performance is the desired goal, the 8x42 would trump the 10x50 in low light. Have you found a big improvement on usability with the extra 2x in actual field use? I’m currently using 10x42 Meoptas and have been considering going to an 8x42 due to a low light situation last fall that cost me a bull. I don’t think the 10x50’s will fit in my harnessB6. 10x50 trumps 10x42 in low light, all things equal. That's a no brainer for me, I'll never own another pair of 10x42's because of that alone.
It all depends on your use case and where you hunt, but for me (high country mule deer and elk), absolutely the extra 2x magnification is worth it. Here's my justification:If low light performance is the desired goal, the 8x42 would trump the 10x50 in low light. Have you found a big improvement on usability with the extra 2x in actual field use? I’m currently using 10x42 Meoptas and have been considering going to an 8x42 due to a low light situation last fall that cost me a bull. I don’t think the 10x50’s will fit in my harness
Edit: after looking at Mavens advertised light transmission, the b6 out performs the 8x42 b1.2. Also, b6 will fit in my marsupial harness.
Thanks for the well thought out response. I spoke with Maven earlier and they steered me towards the 10x50 as well because I don’t typically carry a separate spotter.It all depends on your use case and where you hunt, but for me (high country mule deer and elk), absolutely the extra 2x magnification is worth it. Here's my justification:
Exit Pupil
8x42 - 5.25mm
10x42 - 4.2mm
10x50 - 5mm
12x50 - 4.1667mm
The human eye optimizes around an exit pupil of 5mm. Much smaller and you're leaving light on the table, much more and you're carrying extra bulk that your eye can't use. So 10x42 and 12x50 are out.
12x is too hard to handhold. Lots of guys will say you can, but whenever guys say "buy a 12x50, it's still possible to handhold effectively," the inflection in their voice sounds almost as if they're even trying to convince themselves that what they're saying is true. It's not true across the board obviously, but objectively, lower mag = easier to handhold, especially one hand while bow hunting. I don't want separate binos for rifle vs. bow hunting, so the 10x and 8x win out again. here
So we've already eliminated the 12x50 from contention. Exit pupil is too small, and too hard to handhold. That leaves 8x42, 10x42, and 10x50. The 10x42 is eliminated here because of the small exit pupil (relative to the two other choices).
The magnification is a personal choice thing. The exit pupils between the 8x42 and 10x50 are effectively the same, with just a 0.25mm difference. But the additional 2 magnification of the 10x vs 8x does the same thing that jumping from a 10x to 12x does, but you're not giving up light. Basically, it gives the best tradeoff of FOV, light transmission, hand-hold-ability, and magnification you could hope for in a dedicated western hunting optic.
If I ever hunted back east, I might consider the 8x42. But I live in the rocky mountains and am an unapologetic western hunter, so the 10x50 is my huckleberry. My family and the guys I've hunted with have all jumped on the train as well and have become believers.
This is just my opinion, keep in mind. I'm sure lots of guys will argue an opposing viewpoint, and that's ok. But that's my justification of a 10x50 for dedicated western hunting.
Great postIt all depends on your use case and where you hunt, but for me (high country mule deer and elk), absolutely the extra 2x magnification is worth it. Here's my justification:
Exit Pupil
8x42 - 5.25mm
10x42 - 4.2mm
10x50 - 5mm
12x50 - 4.1667mm
The human eye optimizes around an exit pupil of 5mm. Much smaller and you're leaving light on the table, much more and you're carrying extra bulk that your eye can't use. So 10x42 and 12x50 are out.
12x is too hard to handhold. Lots of guys will say you can, but whenever guys say "buy a 12x50, it's still possible to handhold effectively," the inflection in their voice sounds almost as if they're even trying to convince themselves that what they're saying is true. It's not true across the board obviously, but objectively, lower mag = easier to handhold, especially one hand while bow hunting. I don't want separate binos for rifle vs. bow hunting, so the 10x and 8x win out again. here
So we've already eliminated the 12x50 from contention. Exit pupil is too small, and too hard to handhold. That leaves 8x42, 10x42, and 10x50. The 10x42 is eliminated here because of the small exit pupil (relative to the two other choices).
The magnification is a personal choice thing. The exit pupils between the 8x42 and 10x50 are effectively the same, with just a 0.25mm difference. But the additional 2 magnification of the 10x vs 8x does the same thing that jumping from a 10x to 12x does, but you're not giving up light. Basically, it gives the best tradeoff of FOV, light transmission, hand-hold-ability, and magnification you could hope for in a dedicated western hunting optic.
If I ever hunted back east, I might consider the 8x42. But I live in the rocky mountains and am an unapologetic western hunter, so the 10x50 is my huckleberry. My family and the guys I've hunted with have all jumped on the train as well and have become believers.
This is just my opinion, keep in mind. I'm sure lots of guys will argue an opposing viewpoint, and that's ok. But that's my justification of a 10x50 for dedicated western hunting.
Can anyone verify that the Maven B6 10X50 will fit in a large KUIU bino harness.
Read my post above, post #7.Some good info here, figured I would bump this up to see if anyone else can chime in on the b1.2 vs b6 in 10x instead of starting a new thread