maven b.1 vs tract toric vs razors

[bnsafe]

Id like an american made product so leaning towards the tracts, mainly because of the locking diopter. but I see well thru the razors and love the fact I know the company will be around for years should I need them but hate to spend a 800 ish on chinese made stuff, but I do see well with them.
anyone had or have looked thru all three.

 

[sndmn11]

Id like an american made product so leaning towards the tracts,

Which is made in the USA?

I think all 3 are similar enough to pick what is cheapest. I ran around with b1.2s for a while and sold SLCs to do so.

 

[Hnthrdr]

I don’t think any of them are USA made

 

[hunting1]

The Tract especially with their military deal is a great scope! None are USA made as mentioned, my list would be Tract, Maven, Razor.

 

[Agross]

I’ve tried the razors and the mavens. I preferred the mavens. (The b1.2’s). Not sure if yer referring to the b1 or 1.2 I’ve had both and liked both but the b1 are larger. Liked the view and how they handled and felt in my hands. I sold them and bought slc’s. I love the slc’s but liked the way the mavens felt in hand better. U can find the mavens at a pretty good discount usually. Never tried the tracts.

 

[nobody]

The B1’s are USA assembled, but legally are considered “made” in Japan. I believe tract is japan, and the razor is China or Philippines depending on the configuration.

I would buy the Mavens. The Tract I’m sure are fine, but from a business standpoint it bothers me that they basically just rode maven’s “direct to consumer” coattails. Couple that with the fact that I’ve still never seen a pair “in the wild” across multiple states and seasons, I just don’t see them being around long term. Don’t wish them ill will, but I just don’t see it happening.

The razors are actually solid if you get a good pair, but there’s a huge sample variation within the line IME. If you go with razors, check every pair in person in store and buy the best pair optically they have.

In short, for my dollars, Maven B1.2, then it’s a coin flip from Tract to Vortex for me. With other optics being between maven and the others for me.

 

[jkoehle1]

Like my b1.2s - i find them to be a step up from razors. Cant comment on tract.

Maven has been spot on with warranty stuff that i broke accidently and would have paid to fix.

 

[bnsafe]

thanks guys. if they had a locking diopter this wouldnt even be a question. but i have very bad eyes and feel like i need a locking diopter. maybe its so tough to turn theirs its a non issue?

 

[nobody]

thanks guys. if they had a locking diopter this wouldnt even be a question. but i have very bad eyes and feel like i need a locking diopter. maybe its so tough to turn theirs its a non issue?

I’ve never felt the non-locking diopter on the mavens was an issue. Most locking diopters feel cheap and chincy to me anyways, so I honestly prefer a super stiff non-locking diopter, which the mavens have.

 

[bnsafe]

ok, if i can find a deal i will prob go maven then. maybe they will have some black friday deals going on

 

[Wrench]

I have to suggest you look at a pair of nikon hg's or meopta for a level of optics and build quality that beats what you are looking at.

 

[bnsafe]

im def open to suggestions. id love to look thru a pair of nikon hg but cant find any. meoptas seem heavy accept the air line and im also worried about any warranty work from them. ive also thought about leica trinovids but again no place to look thru them. i have looked thru some zeiss hdx and i really wanted to like them but thought the razors were just better for my eyes. i currently use bx 4s and they work fine, just wanting a step up. i would like but dont need swaros for what im ever gonna do. but, i do want good glass

 

[LongWayAround]

I have a pair of Tract binos. It took me a while to warm up to them. To me, the image quality is very good. The diopter is not moving with basic handling.

They can also be purchased for reasonable prices as demo's or whatever.

Buying a product based on warranty seems misguided to me. Vortex replaced my viper binoculars multiple times but that speaks the product quality more than anything.

 

[Wrench]

im def open to suggestions. id love to look thru a pair of nikon hg but cant find any. meoptas seem heavy accept the air line and im also worried about any warranty work from them. ive also thought about leica trinovids but again no place to look thru them. i have looked thru some zeiss hdx and i really wanted to like them but thought the razors were just better for my eyes. i currently use bx 4s and they work fine, just wanting a step up. i would like but dont need swaros for what im ever gonna do. but, i do want good glass

I ran 8x42bn leica trinovid for 20 years. I sold them for a set of edg's. I didn't think they were better. I then went to meopta, swaro, tract and finally noctovids before I was happy again.

I loved my trinovids so much that I still remember their serial number. Don't feel handicapped by them. They are heavier....but they're BULLETPROOF.