Mathews Lift X split limb. Am I the first?

[WadeTheWild]

So tonight while I was going to use the limb shift to adjust point of impact while shooting broadheads, I'm glad I was paying close attention (I try to most the time, but we're all human right)? I noticed I have the dreaded limb split on the new Mathews Lift X. Before everyone comments on what I should do and what causes it, no offense, but I've already heard and read it all. I'll get it fixed under warranty, I'm just posting this for awareness purposes. People say, "Well if you do this or that it'll cause these limbs to split". Okay but why is that acceptable. This is the only bow I know of these days that is so finicky about what you can and can't do with it (within reason of course). I mean for $1250 C'mon Mathews, do better. It would only make sense for them to go back to the original 4 limb system (I had a V3X that I loved), these thin split limbs with dampeners aren't that much quieter or an advantage to be dealing with this issue still. I love the limb shift idea for tuning, but having this issue still negates all of the cool tuning features. At least for me anyway. Not a lot of confidence going into the woods for hunting season when this happens.

 

[dingo007]

Read lots of people having these issues on another forum im no fan of at all...
I love my Hoyt. Sometimes less is more.
hope it gets fixed fast...

 

[Wheels]

Most popular bow on the market, there are going to be problems.
Mathews is very good at taking care of their customers.

 

[Eship]

Read lots of people having these issues on another forum im no fan of at all...
I love my Hoyt. Sometimes less is more.
hope it gets fixed fast...

I loved my Hoyt pro defiant until the limbs splintered. Hoyts response was “this is normal and shouldn’t cause any issues.”

 

[roosiebull]

I loved my Hoyt pro defiant until the limbs splintered. Hoyts response was “this is normal and shouldn’t cause any issues.”

The old Hoyt “snip and sand” is a different deal than the mathews limb issues. It was pretty common with Hoyt years ago, but it was not structural, from what I have seen, the mathews is structural, I would not shoot the mathews I’ve seen with limb cracks

I’m currently shooting a lift 29.5 and like it, first mathews I have liked since the chill r, and I’m hoping I don’t have issues, and I do think the volume of mathews sold equals more issues statistically, but it’s also obvious that mathews has a limb issue.

I think we are partially responsible, because the consumer demands new and shiny from bow companies now, and expect new and improved every year, and that doesn’t leave much time for proper testing, so the consumer is the tester… like it or not, that’s what we are working with, and we demand it now.

The only thing we can do is wait a year to buy new model bows and let the consumer test it thoroughly before personally buying it, or take your chances, but this is always going to be a thing in the archery industry

 

[Eship]

The old Hoyt “snip and sand” is a different deal than the mathews limb issues. It was pretty common with Hoyt years ago, but it was not structural, from what I have seen, the mathews is structural, I would not shoot the mathews I’ve seen with limb cracks

I’m currently shooting a lift 29.5 and like it, first mathews I have liked since the chill r, and I’m hoping I don’t have issues, and I do think the volume of mathews sold equals more issues statistically, but it’s also obvious that mathews has a limb issue.

I think we are partially responsible, because the consumer demands new and shiny from bow companies now, and expect new and improved every year, and that doesn’t leave much time for proper testing, so the consumer is the tester… like it or not, that’s what we are working with, and we demand it now.

The only thing we can do is wait a year to buy new model bows and let the consumer test it thoroughly before personally buying it, or take your chances, but this is always going to be a thing in the archery industry

Yes, and to be fair, snip, sand, and epoxy over top is exactly what I did with my Hoyt and I had no additional issues. My wife got a Lift RS and I’m really hoping the limbs hold up through this season. I understand they’ll replace them under warranty, but who knows how long that’ll be, and it better not happen in the middle of her season. Other than that worry, it has been a fantastic bow.

It seems like that issue was on last year’s lift and they claim to have fixed it, so hopefully that means the lift RS is good to go.

 

[Kdye01]

Read lots of people having these issues on another forum im no fan of at all...
I love my Hoyt. Sometimes less is more.
hope it gets fixed fast...

What other forum? If you are referring to AT I am not sure that is a good one to reference as it was an instagram post and the discussion starter wasn’t even the person it happened to. If there is another one out there please share that. This is the first one I have actually seen this issue taken place.

 

[dingo007]

What other forum? If you are referring to AT I am not sure that is a good one to reference as it was an instagram post and the discussion starter wasn’t even the person it happened to. If there is another one out there please share that. This is the first one I have actually seen this issue taken place.

keep looking buddy... also try youtube, google and many other cases Ive seen... Mathews got a great marketing team and after sales seems pretty damn good, but for the price? I cant quantify it

 

[Kdye01]

keep looking buddy... also try youtube, google and many other cases Ive seen... Mathews got a great marketing team and after sales seems pretty damn good, but for the price? I cant quantify it

Hmm…. No specifics? The typical answer of “do your research” because I don’t really know. All bows now a days are expensive. And every manufacturer has had issues at one point or another.

My point is if you’re going to make a generic statement that it is on other forums, let’s have specifics and back it up. If you can provide it, great, problem solved. But if you just throw the “look it up” comment out, it discredits what you are saying.

 

[Billy Goat]

The old Hoyt “snip and sand” is a different deal than the mathews limb issues. It was pretty common with Hoyt years ago, but it was not structural, from what I have seen, the mathews is structural, I would not shoot the mathews I’ve seen with limb cracks

I’m currently shooting a lift 29.5 and like it, first mathews I have liked since the chill r, and I’m hoping I don’t have issues, and I do think the volume of mathews sold equals more issues statistically, but it’s also obvious that mathews has a limb issue.

I think we are partially responsible, because the consumer demands new and shiny from bow companies now, and expect new and improved every year, and that doesn’t leave much time for proper testing, so the consumer is the tester… like it or not, that’s what we are working with, and we demand it now.

The only thing we can do is wait a year to buy new model bows and let the consumer test it thoroughly before personally buying it, or take your chances, but this is always going to be a thing in the archery industry

I haven't seen a limb split on a new mathews that I wouldn't keep shooting personally. Not telling anyone else to, but I'm comfortable with it. The splits I have seen are tiny fingers peeling up that aren't structural to the limb. About what Hoyts use to frequently do. Get new limbs coming, not saying leave them on, but I had a TRX that I put another 1500 shots on waiting on limbs and nothing changed with it.


Now the Dartons, I have seen them really come apart, I hope they get that figured out.

 

[Eship]

I haven't seen a limb split on a new mathews that I wouldn't keep shooting personally. Not telling anyone else to, but I'm comfortable with it. The splits I have seen are tiny fingers peeling up that aren't structural to the limb. About what Hoyts use to frequently do. Get new limbs coming, not saying leave them on, but I had a TRX that I put another 1500 shots on waiting on limbs and nothing changed with it.


Now the Dartons, I have seen them really come apart, I hope they get that figured out.

At some point in the splintering wouldn’t there be a noticeable loss in performance though? Obviously just some small splinters wouldn’t have much of an impact

 

[Billy Goat]

At some point in the splintering wouldn’t there be a noticeable loss in performance though? Obviously just some small splinters wouldn’t have much of an impact

At some point yes, cam lean will change, whole tune will change.


It seems when limbs get to that point it progresses rapidly, its causes actual fatigue failures in the surrounding fibers and thats when they actually blow up.

The splinters that are showing up that I have seen aren't that detrimental. Not saying they aren't out there.

Would be interesting to know if a broadhead or bareshaft tune changes, I doubt it. Probably nobody wants to test it.

 

[roosiebull]

I haven't seen a limb split on a new mathews that I wouldn't keep shooting personally. Not telling anyone else to, but I'm comfortable with it. The splits I have seen are tiny fingers peeling up that aren't structural to the limb. About what Hoyts use to frequently do. Get new limbs coming, not saying leave them on, but I had a TRX that I put another 1500 shots on waiting on limbs and nothing changed with it.


Now the Dartons, I have seen them really come apart, I hope they get that figured out.

That’s good to hear, I have not personally seen a mathews split limb, and I recently watched a nock blow up on a chill r, taco’d cam but the limbs held up, and they had their share of limb issues with the chills

That does make me feel better, because if you would shoot it, I would too, especially waiting on replacement. My sense of self preservation is probably a little lower than most

 

[dingo007]

Hmm…. No specifics? The typical answer of “do your research” because I don’t really know. All bows now a days are expensive. And every manufacturer has had issues at one point or another.

My point is if you’re going to make a generic statement that it is on other forums, let’s have specifics and back it up. If you can provide it, great, problem solved. But if you just throw the “look it up” comment out, it discredits what you are saying.

Sorry im not doing your research... It really isn't that hard to find? I don't care less if you believe me or not mate! I just stated my findings.

 

[NXTZ]

Sorry im not doing your research... It really isn't that hard to find? I don't care less if you believe me or not mate! I just stated my findings.

how is this helping the op or adding to the discussion? If you wanna talk “research”, cite your sources and provide facts to support your claims.

As you said, it’s not hard at all to find, so here it is:

https://www.archerytalk.com/threads/limb-split-lift-x.6327844/#replies

Typical 5+ page dumpster fire of speculation and irrational haters arguing with rabid fanboys over an unknown post on instagram from someone not even involved in the situation.

To the op, that sucks and I’m sorry. This the first case of this kind of lift x limb failure I’ve seen. The two others I’ve seen were one when it was first released (and it was trashed and determined to have been damaged in shipping) and that debacle on archerytalk I linked. That case was mostly hearsay and revolved around a IG post; the owner wasn’t involved in the discussion at all.

 

[Kdye01]

how is this helping the op or adding to the discussion? If you wanna talk “research”, cite your sources and provide facts to support your claims.

As you said, it’s not hard at all to find, so here it is:

https://www.archerytalk.com/threads/limb-split-lift-x.6327844/#replies

Typical 5+ page dumpster fire of speculation and irrational haters arguing with rabid fanboys over an unknown post on instagram from someone not even involved in the situation.

To the op, that sucks and I’m sorry. This the first case of this kind of lift x limb failure I’ve seen. The two others I’ve seen were one when it was first released (and it was trashed and determined to have been damaged in shipping) and that debacle on archerytalk I linked. That case was mostly hearsay and revolved around a IG post; the owner wasn’t involved in the discussion at all.

Thanks. That was the exact post I was referring to in my comment.
I find it funny when someone says I have seen it a lot… such and such, but when asked about where…. It instantly turns into do your own research….. to each their own.

Yeah. To the OP hopefully it is taken care of quickly.

 

[Ho5tile1]

Yeah it’s wide spread trust me bro you sound like the government we investigated trust us don’t ask lol do your research cause I can type these 60 words but not the words that say where I saw the wide spread limbs blowing up. I also have the lift X at 82 pounds and have not had an issue nor any of the many ones I see at my club. There are tons of these bows In The wild with way more folks working on there own stuff and who knows what they may be doing when they work on them not saying that’s the cause I am saying that with that many bows in the wild craps gonna happen. They have out sold every other bow by a huge margin and it’s not even close so of course we are gonna see this sometimes. But this is the first I’ve seen other then the Mathews hate brigade over on AT that wasn’t even the op’s bow..


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