Lumber prices and tariffs

[rodney482]

Current Canada tariffs on USA goods:
Milk: 270%
Cheese: 245%
Butter: 298%
Chicken: 238%
Sausages: 69.9%
Barley seed: 57.8%
Bovine/meat: 26.5%
Cars: 25%
HVAC: 45%
Vacuums: 35%
Cable boxes: 35%
TVs: 45%
Steel: 25%
Aluminum: 45%
Copper: 48%

Who is screwing who?

The USA has been getting screwed by everybody forever

 

[Szwampdonkey]

most sheet goods (Osb, plywood) are us products made with chip pine from the south. dimensional lumber is a product of Canada. at least it is here where i build

Most of the dimensional lumber (8’ 2x4s at least not like i look at all of it) at the HD by me is stamped “Made in the USA”. We should promote more of that Nationwide.

 

[Idaboy]

TVs that are made in the USA​

• Silo Digital
• Philips Magnavox TV
• SunBrite TV
• Element Electronics
• Seura TV
• Sceptre TV

I was unaware so looked it up and there ya go. TVs made in the US.

Thankfully Trump is in now and can start the process of getting these other countries to do their part. The illegal immigration and illicit drugs coming across our borders is out of control.

The US can increase wood and oil production at home so double bonus. If i was already well into building a house now i’d buy right now. If i could wait i’d wait a couple years until these things work themselves out and prices come down in the US.

The whole will stand up and listen now without their Silo TV

 

[Weldor]

It’s not that simple and the idea that forests aren’t being logged is a red herring. Around me forests are being cut faster than they will ever grow back. Loggers are passing on jobs left and right. They cut so much in the past few years they dropped the value of logs substantially

Not here, they (USFS) have just watched as our forest burns, starts at 3 acres and ends up burning 9000 acres as they watch it. Couple of years back they let a small lighting strike burn the Catalina mountains down. Lots of lost Pondersa pine lost for sure.

 

[Szwampdonkey]

The whole will stand up and listen now without their Silo TV

Well, i don’t watch much tv at all so im not up on what the cool and must have TVs are. Ours is like 15 years old i think? Maybe these tv brands are cutting edge and Canadians will bend the knee without em?

I was only really putting it out there as it appeared some were calling BS on the US producing any TVs. But looks like they do.

 

[Loo.wii]

Not here, they (USFS) have just watched as our forest burns, starts at 3 acres and ends up burning 9000 acres as they watch it. Couple of years back they let a small lighting strike burn the Catalina mountains down. Lots of lost Pondersa pine lost for sure.

Yeah that’s a dumb move. As angry as some get about logging
It’s important as a combatant against wild fires.

 

[Fireflyfishing]

In my limited experience, when forest service land with excess sawtimber isn’t logged, it’s due to one of four factors.

1. The land is legally inaccessible (roadless or wilderness areas).

2. The terrain is inoperable for logging equipment. Steep slopes, wet soil, etc. This varies based on what equipment is available to local loggers.

3. Timber sales are held up by legal challenges. Spotted owl type stuff. Common in some parts of the country but not others.

4. No local market. No open sawmill within a reasonable distance.

Ramping up timber production on federal land would be doable. The challenge is making sure that what we’re doing meets the legal requirement that our timber harvests are sustainable over the long term.

My guess is the trade war will be done soon enough that ramping up federal timber harvests won’t make an impact.

Negative. You have to get around NEPA and the enviros in court.

Many of the mills have been shut down in the west because of what I wrote above. So, you may have a timber sale somewhere, but it’s not profitable because mills are nonexistent, or too far away.

You don’t just flip a switch and turn timber production back on.

 

[Idaboy]

Well, i don’t watch much tv at all so im not up on what the cool and must have TVs are. Ours is like 15 years old i think? Maybe these tv brands are cutting edge and Canadians will bend the knee without em?

I was only really putting it out there as it appeared some were calling BS on the US producing any TVs. But looks like they do.

Oh no, wasn't bashing, great info....

 

[IdahoElk]

Get you one and don’t look back. F the man.

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Do you kiln dry the wood before using it?