Looking for a Wyoming resident hunting partner

[wyogoat]

@ThorM465 go hunt the wilderness, take your ticket and then run it up through the appellate courts. Put your money where your mouth is.

Before we put too much credence in his statements let’s remember this is the same author of other great threads such as being against horses in areas he can’t take his SxS (because that too “isn’t fair”) drove his SxS 20,000 miles or whatever it was in one of the best units in the state and somehow didn’t see an elk then complained about deadfall…that apparently the state needs to go have cleared out for him.

 

[3forks]

Before we put too much credence in his statements let’s remember this is the same person who is against horses in areas he can’t take his SxS, drove his SxS 20,000 miles or whatever it was in one of the best units in the state and didn’t see an elk and complained about deadfall…that apparently the state needs to go have cleared out for him.

I remember this.

Occasionally, there are posts made by people on this site that are just so ridiculous that they standout even among other numerous dimwitted posts. That’s saying something.

The guy’s perspective on western hunting and lands isn’t even relevant, and he’s incapable of understanding that his whitetail hunting experience and ideas on habitat doesn’t apply to western hunting, animals, or land.

Also, his inability to even consider that he’s wrong and learn from what others on here inform him of should give you an indication of what kind of personality the guy has.

There’s several posters on this site from both the west and other regions of the country that should just stop posting - he’s one of them.

 

[Jason Snyder]

Before we put too much credence in his statements let’s remember this is the same author of other great threads such as being against horses in areas he can’t take his SxS (because that too “isn’t fair”) drove his SxS 20,000 miles or whatever it was in one of the best units in the state and somehow didn’t see an elk then complained about deadfall…that apparently the state needs to go have cleared out for him.

I agree, completely. I’m just encouraging him to quit talking smack on the sidelines and go “throw tea in the harbor”.

 

[grfox92]

Again this thread has nothing to do with Alaska. Go start that thread and I'll explain to you why you're wrong there too.



The cognitive dissonance in your opening statement is astounding. There's nothing degenerative about ignoring corrupt and unjust laws that harm no one. That's about as American as it gets.

The line is a function of who's harmed or not harmed, the level of corruption, and the feasibility of other available options. In a system where you have no voice in the management of property you have a right to as a tax payer, where the state that was given their authority in good faith is openly acting corruptly, choosing defiance at the risk of defined consequences is reasonable whether you agree with it or not.

Planning a hunt, applying for a tag, traveling to that state with the pre meditated intent on breaking the law is degenerate activity. Period.

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[3forks]

I agree, completely. I’m just encouraging him to quit talking smack on the sidelines and go “throw tea in the harbor”.

That, or just stop replying to the comments he makes until he stops posting.

Interacting with someone like this is the equivalent of stopping to engage with some raving lunatic who’s talking gibberish to himself on a street corner.

 

[Jason Snyder]

That, or just stop replying to the comments he makes until he stops posting.

Interacting with someone like this is the equivalent of stopping to engage with some raving lunatic who’s talking gibberish to himself on a street corner.

He made it to my ignore list.

 

[mntnguide]

It wasn't a lack of elk that kept him from killing one. Where he was has plenty of elk, but gotta leave your driver seat to find them

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[ThorM465]

It is literally the exact same issue. The only difference is, apparently you don't want to hunt in Alaska.

You've dug a hole, with no intelligent way to get out, so you're doubling down on dumb. It's been explained to you about a dozen times now and you either don't get it or refuse to acknowledge reality.

You can go access the wilderness. You just can't hunt Wyoming's big game animals there without a guide or resident guide. It's lawful and very simple.

What in the hell are you going on about???

No one here made the case that it was different, but acceptable for Alaska to do it. We have simply refused to engage your further derailment of this thread.

No one here has made the argument that it wasn't "lawful". It can be standing law and be simultaneously corrupt, unjust, and Unconstitutional. I genuinely don't understand what is so difficult to understand about this concept.

 

[drdrop]

Folks mentioning court challenges should be aware that the Wyoming Supreme Court has already ruled on the matter, back in 1985. https://law.justia.com/cases/wyoming/supreme-court/1986/121527.html.

Turns out Brody Henderson penned a good article on the history of this legal challenge here: https://www.themeateater.com/conser...law-access-denied-in-wyoming-wilderness-areas

I had a blast serving as a resident guide to a NR in wilderness this year. While we had excellent hunting, filled all tags, and only came across one other hunter on a single day, we also derived a lot of fun simply by extending our middle fingers to the outfitter industry.

 

[HingleMcCringleberry]

I genuinely don't understand what is so difficult to understand about this concept.

The funny thing about irony, is not everybody gets it....

 

[BowBaboon]

You've dug a hole, with no intelligent way to get out, so you're doubling down on dumb. It's been explained to you about a dozen times now and you either don't get it or refuse to acknowledge reality.

It has become apparent that this person’s only viable skill is beating a dead horse.

 

[BowBaboon]

It wasn't a lack of elk that kept him from killing one. Where he was has plenty of elk, but gotta leave your driver seat to find them

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I believe the Alabama family tree is more adequately represented by a wreath. Tis the season after all.

 

[ThorM465]

Folks mentioning court challenges should be aware that the Wyoming Supreme Court has already ruled on the matter, back in 1985. https://law.justia.com/cases/wyoming/supreme-court/1986/121527.html.

Turns out Brody Henderson penned a good article on the history of this legal challenge here: https://www.themeateater.com/conser...law-access-denied-in-wyoming-wilderness-areas

I had a blast serving as a resident guide to a NR in wilderness this year. While we had excellent hunting, filled all tags, and only came across one other hunter on a single day, we also derived a lot of fun simply by extending our middle fingers to the outfitter industry.

Great information. Thank you for posting it.

I keep moving in the direction that I don't think the courts will be the way to address this. I think our recourse, with best chance of success, would be for a few thousand of us to lobby our congressmen for a bill that would forbid state's from discriminating against Americans based on residency for the purposes of hunting and fishing on federal land. This is unfortunate as I hate to get the federal government involved and I am sympathetic to the idea that residents, not should have, but could have some benefits such as say a 60/40 split on federal land assuming they maintain current generosity levels on state land. However, if the states are unwilling to be reasonable and operate in good faith we're not left with better options, as demonstrated on this forum with threads like this one.

 

[Steve O]

This has probably been asked before but I’m a non resident. I think I have enough points to draw H next year. Wondering if there’s any residents I could talk into going with me into the wilderness areas during the archery next year. Looking for someone that has hunted multiple days out of a backpack. I have horses or goats that I could pack both of our supplies and food. I’m willing to do all of my own scouting as well. I would mainly be interested in the archery hunt. If anyone is interested or can point me in the right direction on where to find someone you can send me a message to figure out details. I can’t afford an outfitter so not looking for that.

I commend you for trying to do things the right way. Bringing this up top just in case some decent WY resident can give you a hand or direct you to one who might. Too bad all the armchair lawyers and felons have bombarded your thread.

 

[HingleMcCringleberry]

I commend you for trying to do things the right way. Bringing this up top just in case some decent WY resident can give you a hand or direct you to one who might. Too bad all the armchair lawyers and felons have bombarded your thread.

Maybe some decent wy resident has offered some advice?

 

[ThorM465]

Maybe some decent wy resident has offered some advice?

Nope, I went back and double checked and there was zero of those guys in this thread.

 

[Jethro]

Maybe some decent wy resident has offered some advice?

Nope, I went back and double checked and there was zero of those guys in this thread.

Have you considered that information may have been given via pm?

 

[HingleMcCringleberry]

Have you considered that information may have been given via pm?

You are much sharper than thorblama.

 

[Steve O]

Maybe some decent wy resident has offered some advice?

I would think another would not hurt!

 

[FAAFO]

Great information. Thank you for posting it.

I keep driving in the direction that I don't think the courts will be the way to address this. I think our recourse, with best chance of success, would be for a few thousand of us to lobby our congressmen for a bill that would tie up an elk for me so I don’t have to question laws and cry on the internet. This is unfortunate as I hate to get the federal government involved but I couldn’t kill an elk in a unit that is overpopulated and I am sympathetic to the idea that residents saw and shot a bunch of elk , but I could have some benefits such as residents 60/40 split the meat with me on federal land assuming they maintain current generosity levels on state land. However, if the residents are unwilling to be reasonable and split meat in good faith we're not left with better options, as demonstrated on this forum with threads like this one.

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