Looking for 200gr ~2850+ Out of a 22" Barrel - What 30cal Cartridge?

Flyjunky

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Hnadloading the 300 PRC and the 300 WM will get you to the 2,850 mark. I've tried both. But after that I went a little bit more. I build a 30 Nosler at 20" suppressed and hitting 3,015 with 215's. (y)
Do you mind telling me your load? I’ve settled on a 30nos after thinking I was going to go 300NMI.
 

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My Tikka 300 wsm cut to 22” runs Berger 205 EHs at 2867 fps with 65.0 gr of 6.5 Staball, Norma brass, and Fed LRM primers. Load is as hot as I would want to go. Based on a 7 shot group, it’s comfortably sub-MOA.

I found the Tikka i have has a relatively long throat for a factory chamber. I’ve seen others say the same. I had to file down bolt stop and run an HCA magazine.

My favorite load is with 175 LRXs and 6.5 Staball. 3125 fps and a 5 shot all-shots-touch group at 0.5”.

I think with a higher energy powder (eg reloader or vihtavouri powder), you could get the 205s to 2900… with that said, I do not find the difference between 2850 and 2900 to be worth much effort or concern.
 
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Hnadloading the 300 PRC and the 300 WM will get you to the 2,850 mark. I've tried both. But after that I went a little bit more. I build a 30 Nosler at 20" suppressed and hitting 3,015 with 215's. (y)
Yeah that's next level for sure. Don't think I want to take it that far just yet. But those are damn good numbers.
 
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you never mentioned what the build will be for? Or maybe I missed it.
I sort of mentioned it but I want something #1 to shoot something heavier than my current stable allows 200+gr, #2 it will be a rifle for a future elk trip I'm planning, #3 be used for long range training and as one of many deer rifles I own although it will be overkill. Hopefully all wrapped up in a nice package that isn't punishing to shoot more than a few rounds through so I don't need it to be super light weight.
 

Karlburns

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Just my opinion but 200 gr is way plenty for elk. I shoot moose with a 30-30 but it’s close
range and one in the ear.

I understand the desire to build the gun though. Rarely do we need another one but their nice to have around.
 
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Im getting 3100 fps out of my custom 20" 300 prc, supressed. Bartlein barrel 200gr cutting edge lazer, 79.5gr RL26 peterson brass
 

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My friends 22in tikka gets 2950 with 200g hand loads. What your asking for isn't available in box ammo unless you do a 300prc for factory ammo in a standard action length. I get 2850 with 180g in my 18in 300wsm and it put moose and bears down.
 
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My friends 22in tikka gets 2950 with 200g hand loads. What your asking for isn't available in box ammo unless you do a 300prc for factory ammo in a standard action length. I get 2850 with 180g in my 18in 300wsm and it put moose and bears down.
Unless I'm forced to, I don't want to use factory ammo so no worries. Thanks for the info.
 

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Yeah, Good luck getting WSM brass. I'd look at component availability before choosing the cartridge. I have yet to find good brass in bulk. I keep waiting on an email from ADG and everyone else is always out of stock. I haven't even seen them on UM for the past year. WM or PRC is probably your best bet.
 

AkRyan

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Yeah, Good luck getting WSM brass. I'd look at component availability before choosing the cartridge. I have yet to find good brass in bulk. I keep waiting on an email from ADG and everyone else is always out of stock. I haven't even seen them on UM for the past year. WM or PRC is probably your best bet.
I'm tempted to rebarrel mine just for this reason. Thinking 7prc
 
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I have a Tikka 300 WSM stock barrel (wanted to wait and see what speed I finished at before cutting down to 20”) so 24.3” I think.
I’m shooting Berger 200.20x at 2760 fps because it was too accurate there to push faster. I took it up over 2850 with no pressure signs in 60 degree temps, while I was still sun moa it shoots so much better at 2760 so I loaded up for season and long range drop verification. That was all H4350, I have H4831sc, IMR 7828 and RL26 to try after I have it cut down and TI pro break installed.

I also shot 160 hammers (tikka version) over 3350 with superformance and over 3250 with 6.5 Staball.

Factory Norma 180 Bondstrike shoots 2990 fps and confirmed out to 600 on drops.

I did change the bolt stop to long action and will run the bergers In a HCA mag.

I think a WSM will get you there and I haven’t found brass to be a problem. I found 120 rounds factory Norma ammo on local shelves, bought 70 something Win brass that I shot and then sold when I found 100 pieces ADG on the shelves at local Scheels.
And I still have the 120 pieces of Norma when I get through shooting another 40-50 I have left.

I regularly see 300 WSM brass or ammo for sale in the classifieds
 

AkRyan

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Anyone handloading wsm needs to try magpro with the 200s just saying.
 

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Since I'm a new member, lurked forever, I never paid attention to the classifieds here. So I'll keep my eyes open for brass. I ended up buying a bunch of Nosler trophy grade ABs for my WSM. So I'll load that back up for a few loadings.

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I did not have a huge problem finding brass for my 300 wsm… actually ended up with several options.
 

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I would go with 300 wsm throated for the 215 bergers in the tikka action. Should be able to get there with RL26. My 300 wsm does with a 24" barrel and 3.15 COAL.
Not quite the same but my SAMMI chambered 325 wsm 24" barrel does 2950 with RL17 & 200 gr partitions. 2800 with H4350
26" 30 Nosler throated pushed 215s 3175 with retumbo.

I think you can get 2850 easily out of a 22" barrel in a throated Tikka action with 200.2x berger or 215s with RL26.
 
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