Longest Kill 6.5 Creedmoor

[id_jon]

I'm shooting a 6 creed, but I'll share anyway. Last year's buck was 535 yards, dropped in his tracks. This year's was 420 yards, went 15 yards. Both broadside with Berger 95gr classic hunters.

 

[tak]

470 and 490 on previous whitetail buck and doe, 140gr Berger Hybrid.

This year, 647 on whitetail doe, 140gr ELDM, 2810fps out of a 26" barrel, heavy gun. My longest ever. I have a video, but not sure how to post it.

Texas hill country whitetails, small, does rarely break 100 lbs.

 

[Anschutz]

I don't have a 6.5CM but have nothing against it. Hornady has a great marketing team and pushed the round hard. The 6.5 CM is good because of what it offers a new, or improving shooter. Factory Rifles set up to shoot long range and match grade ammo for $35 a box. If you take a new shooter and set them up with a 6.5CM, teach them fundamentals, and they shoot an F-Class match a month (Especially at CRC or Cheyenne), they'll be more prepared to shoot long with a 6.5CM than most hunters in the country. They'll also know what kind of shot they are because for those that have shot at CRC, Buffalo Creek, or Cheyenne, you know that the wind separates the men from the boys. I'd bet that most of those in this post have a barrel in the corner because of thousands of shots at the range that prepared you to take a long shot on game. The hate for the 6.5 comes from those that were not prepared and wounded game and those that make claims about the round that are not true. I have plenty of experience shooting but I can look at my targets from the 600 yard line in service rifle and know that my wind calling abilities are not up to snuff to shoot game that far.

 

[Camslameron]

My initial kill with my savage 10 in 6.5 was on a great 10 point at roughly 100 yards. 143g ELDX factory load. I was extremely disappointed in its performance. It was a quartering (single) lung shot but he still managed to make it about 120 yards after I jumped him. The stomach wrenching part was when I was only finding the very tiniest spec, and i mean TINY, drops of blood about every 7-10 yards. When I finally got to him, the jacket was sticking out of the skin on the offside side of the shot. It basically went ballistic and there was nothing left of the round.

That being said, I've found that the bullet design performs MUCH better at distance. It seems to stay together at a lower velocity and retain some weight, enough to get through a cow elk at 385, two pronghorn at 460 and another at 647 yards. All single shot harvests. So, I have since left my closer range hunting to a soft point like a core-lokt or similar.

someone mentioned hammers here and i'm tryin them out next.

 

[natedock1]

Come on now! 6.5 prc ok, but Creedmore?

yeah....calling BS on this one lol

 

[natedock1]

Personally, 620 on a mule deer. My buddy killed a spike bull at 1120 this season. Top of the shoulders/neck with a 140 ELD M. Dropped in his tracks, the bullet exited and left a softball sized wound channel.
Not sure what his load is, mine was 2875 at the muzzle with 140 ELD Ms.
Somebody is going to cry about that story. Whoever does needs to get off the computer and shoot some stuff. I'm not saying it's an ideal 1k elk cartridge, but it's not incapable of it either.

at 800 yards the 6.5 creedmoor enery is under 900 foot pounds....so at 1100 yards?????? not enough to drop an elk in its tracks and have an exit wound lol....i think you need a new range finder lol.

 

[S-3 ranch]

IMO any thing over 450 meters with any 6.5 except a .264 win mag
its a massive injustice to a game animal, 900 FPE don’t cut it
switch to a 6.8 , .300 mag , 300prc , way more energy and wind resistance on drift

 

[MTMeatHunter]

IMO any thing over 450 meters with any 6.5 except a .264 win mag
its a massive injustice to a game animal, 900 FPE don’t cut it
switch to a 6.8 , .300 mag , 300prc , way more energy and wind resistance on drift

I don’t necessarily disagree with your comment regarding distance, but where did you get this energy figure? 900FPE? The factory load I shoot out of my creedmoor, Hornady’s Precision Hunter, carries more than 1100 foot lbs of energy to 700 yards. That’s at 3000 ft of elevation, and I tend to hunt a fair bit higher anyway. For the record, I cap my hunting to 400 yards but certainly not because of ft lbs of energy… at 500 yards it’s still doing 2100 fps with 1400ft lbs of energy.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

IMO any thing over 450 meters with any 6.5 except a .264 win mag
its a massive injustice to a game animal, 900 FPE don’t cut it
switch to a 6.8 , .300 mag , 300prc , way more energy and wind resistance on drift

You don’t know what you don’t know.

 

[natedock1]

I don’t necessarily disagree with your comment regarding distance, but where did you get this energy figure? 900FPE? The factory load I shoot out of my creedmoor, Hornady’s Precision Hunter, carries more than 1100 foot lbs of energy to 700 yards. That’s at 3000 ft of elevation, and I tend to hunt a fair bit higher anyway. For the record, I cap my hunting to 400 yards but certainly not because of ft lbs of energy… at 500 yards it’s still doing 2100 fps with 1400ft lbs of energy.

A commonly accepted threshold for the minimum amount of kinetic energy needed to kill an elk is 1500 ft-lbs. Most bullets won't expand under 1800 fps........you could call it rocket science haha....so this 1120 yard kill claim dropped in its tracks claim is BS

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

A commonly accepted threshold for the minimum amount of kinetic energy needed to kill an elk is 1500 ft-lbs. Most bullets won't expand under 1800 fps........you could call it rocket science haha....so this 1120 yard kill claim dropped in its tracks claim is BS

Incorrect.

 

[260madman]

Looks like carryover from the 243vs25-06 in the Elk forum .

 

[natedock1]

Incorrect.

well at least you supported your post with facts

 

[Wrench]

A way more effective metric would be to query the impact velocity and game type. The bullet doesn't care what the headstamp says.

Generic impact velocity conclusions are just that. A match burner and a ttsx will have dramatically different upset speeds.....but same mfr and diameter.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

well at least you supported your post with facts

This has been covered. On this site and many more. Do some research before stating “rocket science facts” that make you sound silly.

 

[S-3 ranch]

This has been covered. On this site and many more. Do some research before stating “rocket science facts” that make you sound silly.

There is a system that is called the -Taylor Knock Out Values.

And it uses the estimated energy for one shot kills on game.

It uses a recommended energy and a minimum energy for each animal.

On Elk it recommends 2000 ft/lbs and 1500ft/lbs as a minimum. this is at the Point of Impact.

Deer are 1200 ft/lbs and 1000 ft/lbs minimum.

These values are conservative but are a good place to start.

it easy to read and explained in terms even you might understand

 

[natedock1]

There is a system that is called the -Taylor Knock Out Values.

And it uses the estimated energy for one shot kills on game.

It uses a recommended energy and a minimum energy for each animal.

On Elk it recommends 2000 ft/lbs and 1500ft/lbs as a minimum. this is at the Point of Impact.

Deer are 1200 ft/lbs and 1000 ft/lbs minimum.

These values are conservative but are a good place to start.

it easy to read and explained in terms even you might understand

Exactly….so there is no way you have 1500 foot pounds at 1120 yards

 

[natedock1]

You don’t know what you don’t know.

Your posts offer nothing in the line of statistics, facts or any data. You simply criticize or disagree with others who you don’t agree with. You can do better

 

[id_jon]

This has been hashed out on so many threads at this point

 

[slowelk]

This has been hashed out on so many threads at this point

They are new here.