Long Range School (midwest)

[harmonist34]

I'm not a good shot, and I'm realizing I need to fix that. I've never been a long range hunter, but I'd like to do more western hunting and need to become capable. I'm intrigued by the idea of a long range school to really get some help on fundamentals and lock them in over a few days of intensive practice. I think there's at least one option somewhere in MI (Outdoor Solutions claims to have a new MI location but I haven't seen a scheduled class). Anybody else in the midwest done the long range school thing? Did you fly out to TX or Utah or somewhere or find one closer?

 

[BCD]

Following. I'm interested as well.

 

[Bluumoon]

Anty up for the Shoot2Hunt program if you can. It's worth the time/trip/travel. First one says 0-600 yard class, they'll have you reaching out way past that during the program.

 

[JohnJohnson]

Looks like Frank Galli and Marc Taylor are running a two day course in Ohio on October 7-8. It may already be full but it'd be worth you reaching out to the email and asking anyway. They do great stuff.

Training Courses - *NEW* Sniper's Hide FFP Range OHIO Oct 7-8 Two-Day Essential Fundamentals and Gravity Ballistics

This range is a hidden gem. Had a great time here the last three years. Make the drive this fall for instruction and shooting memories you will never forget. The 3-Day is OVERflowing, so... we are adding a course! Frank and Marc Complete 2- DayCourse in Fundamentals and Gravity Ballistics. You...

www.snipershide.com

 

[harmonist34]

I did confirm today that https://www.outdoorsolutionscorp.com/long-range-shooting are not offering courses in MI any longer.

 

[digger]

Look at BarbourCreek in Alabama,,,,,, highly reccomended

 

[Schism]

Looks like Frank Galli and Marc Taylor are running a two day course in Ohio on October 7-8. It may already be full but it'd be worth you reaching out to the email and asking anyway. They do great stuff.

Training Courses - *NEW* Sniper's Hide FFP Range OHIO Oct 7-8 Two-Day Essential Fundamentals and Gravity Ballistics

This range is a hidden gem. Had a great time here the last three years. Make the drive this fall for instruction and shooting memories you will never forget. The 3-Day is OVERflowing, so... we are adding a course! Frank and Marc Complete 2- DayCourse in Fundamentals and Gravity Ballistics. You...

www.snipershide.com

I've taken a couple of their courses at a different location. I found them to be very good classes.

In the midwest I know they do some in Iowa, Nebraska and Ohio. They used to offer a class in MN but I'm not sure if they do that any longer. It might be worth reaching out to them to see what's available.

 

[Boltgun]

I don’t have any personal experience with this place, but it looks very good and I was able to speak to someone there that sounded very competent.
K&M in Tennessee

https://kmprecisionrifletraining.com/

If you’re near the east coast, Coleman’s Creek in NC is fantastic. I’ve taken multiple classes there.

 

[BravoNovember]

This is in NW Illinois. Due to being only a couple hours from home, I’m planning on taking a course at some point in the near future.

Hunting Rifle - THE SITE

THE SITE's Hunting Rifle course is designed to help you prepare and get the most out of your next rifle hunt.

thesitetraining.com

 

[JohnJohnson]

I don’t have any personal experience with this place, but it looks very good and I was able to speak to someone there that sounded very competent.
K&M in Tennessee

https://kmprecisionrifletraining.com/

If you’re near the east coast, Coleman’s Creek in NC is fantastic. I’ve taken multiple classes there.

That's great to hear since I'm only 2 hours from them. They were my top pick for classes near me. How much do they harp on the fundamentals?

 

[Boltgun]

That's great to hear since I'm only 2 hours from them. They were my top pick for classes near me. How much do they harp on the fundamentals?

K&M or Coleman’s?

Coleman’s definitely does. Again, no firsthand experience with K&M.

 

[JohnJohnson]

K&M or Coleman’s?

Coleman’s definitely does. Again, no firsthand experience with K&M.

Colemans is the one near me. I had an odd experience with trying to buy something from K&M that kind of turned me off them. Tried to buy an ACC Elite from them but their credit card processing company rejected my Navy Federal saying it was fraudulent. I talked to Navy Federal and they said that basically never happens, they're not exactly some small town unknown bank. Thought it would be a simple email to correct but K&M wanted a picture of my drivers license as well as a bill addressed to me to prove I live where I live and am who I am. I sent over my license and they never replied to me. Not sure if they're just extremely paranoid or what.

 

[Boltgun]

Colemans is the one near me. I had an odd experience with trying to buy something from K&M that kind of turned me off them. Tried to buy an ACC Elite from them but their credit card processing company rejected my Navy Federal saying it was fraudulent. I talked to Navy Federal and they said that basically never happens, they're not exactly some small town unknown bank. Thought it would be a simple email to correct but K&M wanted a picture of my drivers license as well as a bill addressed to me to prove I live where I live and am who I am. I sent over my license and they never replied to me. Not sure if they're just extremely paranoid or what.

Definitely hit Coleman’s. I’m jealous that you’re close. Private lessons with Brad are money well spent, if you can get a couple guys in with you. He does a great job of teaching directly to your level, so even just a 3-4 hr class will take you up a level.

 

[tumbleweed419]

Thunder Valley Precision Coshocton, Ohio has courses. You can shoot to a mile there.

About – Thunder Valley Precision

 

[260shooter]

I don’t have any personal experience with this place, but it looks very good and I was able to speak to someone there that sounded very competent.
K&M in Tennessee

https://kmprecisionrifletraining.com/

If you’re near the east coast, Coleman’s Creek in NC is fantastic. I’ve taken multiple classes there.

I'm heading there in October for the level 1 course. Shot a gas gun match there in 17, first rate facility. I'll report back for an AAR.

 

[SchwarzStock]

I have no problem with long range shooting of game but as a former Special Operations sniper instructor none of these courses are going to make you the sure-shot 600 yard killer they advertise. Just because you can place a shot in the 10-ring on a known distance range at some course does not mean you have any business shooting at game at unknown distances, on unknown terrain with changing light and wind conditions.

Hunting is not just a shooting game and there are some ethics to consider i.e. can you make the shot with 90%+ certainty it will be a clean clean and not just a wound. A gain I have shot animals at over 500yds but I have a bit more trigger time than most.

 

[Dos XX]

Not the Midwest, but a great course run by great guys.

COURSE DESCRIPTIONS | DRLongRangeConcepts

Learn about the fundamentals of long range precision shooting along with the art of spotting

www.drlongrangeconcepts.com

 

[SchwarzStock]

Great guys cannot turn a shooter into a phenomenal shot in one course. Long range shooting at enemy combatants demands no ethics of ensuring a clean kill, hunting does. Again, I have nothing against shooting at game form long distances but the shooter needs to be competent. Should we in this case call them "hunters" or "shooters"?

 

[JohnJohnson]

I have no problem with long range shooting of game but as a former Special Operations sniper instructor none of these courses are going to make you the sure-shot 600 yard killer they advertise

I don't think anyone is claiming that. But taking a class is probably the best bang for your buck to improve at shooting.

Just because you can place a shot in the 10-ring on a known distance range at some course does not mean you have any business shooting at game at unknown distances, on unknown terrain with changing light and wind conditions.

You're kind of just parroting stuff that's said every time the subject comes up anywhere.

A gain I have shot animals at over 500yds but I have a bit more trigger time than most.

There are a lot of guys on here that have a lot of trigger time too.

Long range shooting at enemy combatants demands no ethics of ensuring a clean kill, hunting does.

Good reason for him to avoid any course where the instructors over-emphasize their military backgrounds. I'm much more interested in what competitive shooters have to say on this stuff. Especially NRL Hunter competitors.

Should we in this case call them "hunters" or "shooters"?

This is a LONG RANGE HUNTING FORUM!

If you have a problem with long range hunting, don't post here. There are lots of other forums for you.

rokslide.com

 

[SchwarzStock]

JJ; "You're kind of just parroting stuff that's said every time the subject comes up anywhere."

So if I am and it diverges from your opinion does that make it wrong? When someone can show me they can place every shot within a 6" circle at 600 yds on changing terrain and in changing weather conditions I will reconsider.