Loctite 380 Alternative

[gjw]

Hey all, I'm getting a UM handle and ball for my Tikka. I know that the 380 is recommended to loctite the ball.

Problem is, there is none available locally. Looked on line and the small tube is cheap enough, but the shipping is astronomical!

Is there an alternative for the 380?

Many thanks!

Greg

 

[Nine Banger]

Blue loctite

Spin it on while the bolt is in the rifle and grab it hard and crank on it.

Good to go.

 

[RWT]

I found same issue with the 380 recently. Waited until I had enough in the cart with Midway to add a few tubes for free shipping.

Another alternative is order ship to store with Walmart or Depot and wait the 3 weeks.

 

[BRTreedogs]

JB weld

 

[nm.otter]

Direct from Henkel, free shipping.

 

[gjw]

Direct from Henkel, free shipping.

Tried them, but you have to be a business, no personal accounts

 

[RockAndSage]

Direct from Henkel, free shipping.

This is what I did, just got several of the small ones from them. One thing to keep in mind for anyone getting the 380, is that you're supposed to keep it refrigerated.

 

[nm.otter]

you have to be a business, no personal accounts

Make something up, or ship it to a friend's business?

 

[Lawnboi]

Ask them to glue it in before it leaves

 

[gjw]

Make something up, or ship it to a friend's business?

Tried that no dice and don't know anyone who has a business

Heck, I'll just use the blue LT

Thanks all for the suggestions

 

[Formidilosus]

Tried that no dice and don't know anyone who has a business

Heck, I'll just use the blue LT

Thanks all for the suggestions

Almost all the blue loctite ones we see come loose. Red loctite is better, Roksett is better still.

 

[nm.otter]

Is there an alternative for the 380?

Search for 'rubber-toughened cyanoacrylate' and you'll see several manufacturers.

 

[huntabsarokee]

I got a small tube of the 380 at grainger. I happened to have one close so pick up was free.

 

[onlybrowning]

Henkel shipped to my house…not a business. Wonder if something changed.

 

[gjw]

Search for 'rubber-toughened cyanoacrylate' and you'll see several manufacturers.

Thanks for the suggestion! I ordered this, hope it's the right stuff

Bob Smith Industries 118 Ic-2000 1 Oz. Ca Glue​

 

[TOLeary]

I had the same issue. I picked up Loctite 480 as an alternative on Amazon - came in a day or trip. I did some “research” (ChatGPT) and it was the closest product to the 380. Using it today so don’t know how well it works yet but in paper looks good

 

[TOLeary]

Almost all the blue loctite ones we see come loose. Red loctite is better, Roksett is better still.

Side note - have you tried using Loctite primer for any of their blue or red thread lockers?

I was reading about them failing with certain metals and that primer would work. which reminded me how a primer pen is needed when I’m vaning my arrows. Without it glue doesn’t work at all and with it works as should. Wasn’t sure it’d be a similar thing with with the thread lockers you’ve tried

 

[Formidilosus]

Side note - have you tried using Loctite primer for any of their blue or red thread lockers?

I was reading about them failing with certain metals and that primer would work. which reminded me how a primer pen is needed when I’m vaning my arrows. Without it glue doesn’t work at all and with it works as should. Wasn’t sure it’d be a similar thing with with the thread lockers you’ve tried

I have before. Long time ago and don’t remember a whole lot about it. Supposing it don’t do much as I moved on from it.

 

[realunlucky]

Thanks for the suggestion! I ordered this, hope it's the right stuff

Bob Smith Industries 118 Ic-2000 1 Oz. Ca Glue​

This victory arrow glue is similar stuff and with proper prep it's not coming loose with out heat.

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[Dobermann]

I couldn't source 380 locally, but went with 480. I think there's another thread here where we talked about this. From memory, the 380 is rubberized or something, and is designed for applications where there's a lot of torque or movement ... the details were on the product instructions. I might have even screenshotted them, or quoted them - but you can look it up yourself pretty easily on the Heckels site.

Other than that, if the 380 is available, but the issue is shipping, sometimes I think it's worth sucking that up - if we did full-cost accounting of our time and mileage to go buy single items, what first looks like high shipping can often be the cheaper answer.