Ok great. The problem I'm having is that I have the QD cups my stock and front pic rail. To do the classic adapter I'd have to remove that front rail and I dont have a standard sling stud on the butt of the stock.I prefer to run a sling with my rifle for when i need both hands accessible in steep country especially on stalks. Because of this I simply removed the swivel stud on my rifle and used the classic rifle adapter. It is .4oz more than the gunsmith adapter and didn't require drilling into my carbon stock.
Out side of weight move the speed and ease of hatchi would also like to know what you did not like about the Spartan. Thanks. any complaints about the Hatch?