Both of mine are the same way lol, no idea what goes through their minds. Absolutely mandatory to take a leak on the fence post next to my target right as I'm getting set up.Cool video. Thanks
What's with dogs and targets? Mine does the same.
Yeah, I’ve seen this video before, and a 4” drop is a chunk, but it won’t ruin your world if you’re used to it. I agree that weight gets a little crazy sometimes, and a 450 grain arrow will do the job fine.good test.
4" drop with 650g is significant
I dunno what the big deal is, if you want to shoot heavy- then do it.
A 450g arrow will kill anything in NA....
The noise difference is definitely significant. Even a 525 vs 615 for me is very noticeable in the noise department.Yeah, I’ve seen this video before, and a 4” drop is a chunk, but it won’t ruin your world if you’re used to it. I agree that weight gets a little crazy sometimes, and a 450 grain arrow will do the job fine.
I shoot heavy because it feels nicer and it’s a lot quieter. Thats about it.
I'm of the KISS mentality with a trad bow, especially for hunting, which I'm assuming the video is intended for.I look at the arrow weight thing differently....and it's different from a compound or Trad perspective as it affects the way we aim in Trad...Compound not so much.
A guy shooting instinctive at 20y and in is less affected by a heavy arrow.
A guy like myself, that shoots field rounds out to 70y....a heavy arrow gives me a bigger gap at 20 and 25y- not good. No matter your aiming system, we know from the many top shooters that the smaller gap is always going to be more accurate- thus the extreme accuracy of a fixed crawl.
So I look at it this way; Setup your bow for accuracy at the distances you shoot either in the field or at Critters.
In my case, I want that 25-30y as small a gap as possible for more accuracy without going to an uber light arrow. I can't get that with a heavy arrow. My 553g arrow has a 1" plus gap at 20y. The 434g is about 5/8"- and that is a huge difference when referencing the tip of your arrow.
It's not JUST the trajectory of the arrow as the vid implies...but also how your aiming system works in a real world scenario.
Now, a guy can work up a heavy arrow that gives him the exact point on he wants- that works too...but the longer shots are going to be a guesstimate aiming way over the back of the critter. If you have ever shot a 60,70y target you know what thats like.
I never thought I would be taking a shot at a mule deer with my Compound at 93yds either...but I had practiced stacking pins out to 100y and it came in handy- pinwheeled that wounded buck.I'm of the KISS mentality with a trad bow, especially for hunting, which I'm assuming the video is intended for.
I'll never loose an arrow at a deer past 20, elk at 25. All to do with skill, not ethics. I shoot instinctive. I don't range anything, just point n shoot. I'm the guy you mention in your 2nd paragraph for sure.
Only tangible difference between heavy and light arrows for me is a far quieter bow. There's no circumstance I'd ever be holding over a critter with a bow, so I haven't even considered trajectory.
If I was shooting targets competitively at 70 yards, a 600+ grain arrow would indeed be inferior.
Are you speaking from a trad gear perspective?When you’re hunting it makes a difference and I have tested myself. When your your shooting really heavy arrows you have to be very spot on with yardage, not always possible in a hunting situation.
When shooting a rifle when talking hit percentage you stack variables to get what the worst possible outcome. It’s the same here and a very heavy arrow adds a lot
My testing was a lighter poundage shorter draw compound trust was not a speed bowAre you speaking from a trad gear perspective?
I felt the video was pretty clear that inside the distances that 99% of traditional shots are taken, you've gotta be shooting a REALLY heavy arrow to wound/miss a critter compared to a lighter arrow.
For compound guys using pins and sliders and all kinds of fancy shit, and shooting way out there, I completely see the advantage of chasing trajectory. Stick bow? Not seeing it, but open to more real world experience to convince me otherwise.
I’ve killed more animals with a 450-500 grain arrow outta a 47-50lb longbow at my 25.5 inch draw then most guys even compared to a compound. I’ve yet to find a reason to shoot more then 10 gpp for a stick, compounds even less, like 6-8 gpp is fine. Every year I go lighter and lighter with the trad stuff and haven’t seen an issue yet besides flatter trajectory and smaller gaps.
Broadhead design has more to do with penetration then arrow weight imo.