Leupold Mk4HD 2.5-10 review

[ljalberta]

I want to believe!

I hope you keep documenting and sharing your results. So many things about the Mark 4s and 5s that I like, but I’ve always been resistant based on my past Leupold experiences and results of other’s testing.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

I've personally seen, actually in person not on the internet, 6 Mark 5's lose zero on known/good guns. I have zero experience with the newer Mark 4's...

Are there design differences in the Mark 4's from the Mark 5's to indicate they may be a better designed scope?

 

[AZ_Hunter]

I've personally seen, actually in person not on the internet, 6 Mark 5's lose zero on known/good guns. I have zero experience with the newer Mark 4's...

Are there design differences in the Mark 4's from the Mark 5's to indicate they may be a better designed scope?

No idea. That’s why I am going to keep shooting this and see what happens. If it loses zero, then good, learned something. If it doesn’t, then good, learned something.

I have a year before this rifle will go hunting. There will be a lot more shooting it by then.

 

[Jake Larsen]

No idea. That’s why I am going to keep shooting this and see what happens. If it loses zero, then good, learned something. If it doesn’t, then good, learned something.

I have a year before this rifle will go hunting. There will be a lot more shooting it by then.

Have you run a tall target test? I’d like to see that


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[AZ_Hunter]

Have you run a tall target test? I’d like to see that


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Have not. I can do that next time.

 

[Axlrod]

Inhale, slowly exhale, focus on sight alignment, trigger squeeze begins, time my trigger break with bottom of my exhale, shot goes off, small bump in sight picture, reticle after firing is low. Get sight alignment again, repeat. Realize the natural out of aim is low and I am forcing the rifle up by tightening my rear support hand.

Decide to reposition bags. Now rifle has a better natural point of aim. Reticle is staying centered without muscle tension. Repeat shooting sequence. Shots break, sight picture hops, lands back real close to the original plane. Barely have to shift body. Repeat shot sequence… etc etc

This is like arguing with Rain Man.

You could make this way less convoluted, if you were driving the rifle, instead of the rifle driving you. A zeroed scope puts holes in the delineated point of aim. I guess you could draw an actual point of aim on the target, after shooting. But it would be way better to just put the bullets in the bullseye. Not being a smart ass, and I do much appreciate the testing of this scope. But the target you posted looks exactly like targets I have shot, with scopes that lost zero.

 

[AZ_Hunter]

So when a shooter doesn’t have a perfect position and the bullets don’t impact the bullseye, then the shooter recognizes their mistake, then corrects their position and shoots the bullseye, the zero has shifted?

That will make training new shooters easy:

“Son, you missed right. It’s ok, the zero shifted. Try again. You missed left this time, it’s ok the zero has shifted.”

Some of you are acting as if the rifle is held in a mechanical vice being shot in a controlled environment.

If this was about my Maven, the comments would be about shooting fundamentals.

Next time, I will only post my shots after I shoot a few and get in the groove, then shoot a fresh target.

 

[AZ_Hunter]

Speaking of Maven. Here are my last three groups I shot before my CO trip. All same loads on the same paper. 1st, 2nd, 3rd.

First group sucked and was way low. Gathered myself, repositioned and shot again. Chilled for a bit and shot again.

I see a trend. First group low. Too much pull on trigger, dipping rifle? Rear bag not positioned right?… I don’t remember. But to shoot my best takes a few rounds. I am not a machine.